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08-19-2012 12:24 AM
shanedennis Sounds nutty to me. I used to drive truck in the Northern Territory of Australia but would never dream of pulling my beautiful PS 34 with a pickup. It's tricky enough pulling a trailer sailor with a pickup.
08-18-2012 02:43 PM
sww914
Re: Trailering a Pacific Seacraft 34

I was an insurance adjuster for a little while. One of my claims involved a guy who had just bought a boat and was towing it home. He had searched for the boat for 5 years before he found it 800 miles from home. It was right at the limit of what his truck could handle. He called his wife before he entered the area that I covered and complained that it felt a little bit squirrely when he tried to slow down on hills. Our county has a legendary grade right in the middle of it. When he tried to slow the rig, his truck began fishtailing, jack knifed, and he plunged down a 300' hill, truck, trailer, and all.
I had to go visit him in the hospital.
His neck was broken and he was paralyzed. I told him "I'm glad you're alive" and he said that he wasn't, he wished that he'd died.
There wasn't a single part of that boat left that was worth salvaging. Not even the ignition switch, the key was broken off.

Hauling a heavy load takes experience.
08-18-2012 01:32 PM
blt2ski
Re: Trailering a Pacific Seacraft 34

I'd do it with my 3500 dually without thinking twice. Granted I pull trailers of different types sizes and wts usually daily..........I've even pulled my stepdads 8K boat and trailer that is probably 35'ish feet long with a bow sprit and boomkin. around 10' wide.

There is a place in bellingham that will also custom build a trailer too. My step dads was around 4K iirc.

Issue I see.....you're looking at $500-1000 ea side taking the mast etc up/down for transport, plus fuel/permits etc to and from. Insurance I doubt that it costs you much more than normal insurance for towing trailers. Check with agent. Probably part of the trailer insurance as it is for me.

At the end of the day, it could cost just as much or more to transport the boat to and from and it does to leave a boat in a slip those other 4-6 months of the year. Then again, having a boat at home to work on things during the winter could be nice too.

THe other, something tells me from weather reports, talking to people I know down there. the willamette valley seems to get a bit colder, windier etc than it does up here in the seattle to everett area or even anacortes. Bellingham it does get colder, snowier etc. still very few pull boats for the winter in the general salish sea area, that would include going north into canada.

marty
08-18-2012 01:23 PM
benjmin
Trailering a Pacific Seacraft 34

My boat is 37' long with a beam of 12'4" 17,000lbs. I had my trailer custom made by Triad. Their work is great. Pictures are in my profile photo album. I do not pull my trailer myself. But no permits were required. Have a pro move the boat for you. It is nice having my boat at home on a stable platform that can be moved around if needed.
08-18-2012 01:10 PM
SecondWindNC
Re: Trailering a Pacific Seacraft 34

A Pacific Seacraft 34 can be professionally transported by land, for instance if you bought the boat on one coast and wanted to relocate it to the other. The transport company would take care of the necessary wide load permits, escorts, etc. But I wouldn't consider it as a DIY and it's not a boat I would want to de-rig, transport, and re-rig on an annual basis. I would think the cost to have it prepped and moved each year would end up being prohibitive compared to finding a boatyard that's either near where you cruise or closer to home where you could have the boat hauled and stored on the hard for the offseason.
08-18-2012 12:46 PM
Squidd
Re: Trailering a Pacific Seacraft 34

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Squidd is that old pieces of wood pallets ur using on that trailer for bracing????
No, but I didn't pay for any of the lumber or timbers I used either..
08-18-2012 10:55 AM
ParadiseParrot
Re: Trailering a Pacific Seacraft 34

Quote:
Originally Posted by Squidd View Post
Go for it...

Just don't tip it over on the highway...and watch out for falling asteroids and space junk....

and Pot holes , Nails or anything else that causes a blow out. The guy in front of you that slams the brakes etc etc etc.

But if you find a million in insurance and permits cheap in your area then why not?


LEGAL DIMENSION LIMITS

Length: 53’ or 57’6” with permit
Width: 8’6”
Height: 13’6”
Overhang: 3’ front or rear


14-26.007 Liability of Permittee.
Permits are granted with the specific understanding that the permittee shall be responsible and liable for any damage to state roadways and structures. The permittee shall hold blameless and harmless and shall indemnify the State of Florida, Department of Transportation and members thereof, its officers, agents and employees against any and all claims, demands, loss, injury, damage, actions and costs of actions whatsoever, which they or any of them may sustain by reason of any and all acts of omission or commission arising in any manner out of the issuance of the permit or the operation of the vehicle, load, or escort and load.
(1) In order to obtain a permit to operate a vehicle or combination of vehicles and load in excess of the legal height, length, width, or weight limitations of Section 316.515 or 316.535, F.S., the permittee will be required to have one of the following:
(a) Insurance in the amount of $100,000 per person and $200,000 per accident or occurrence for property damage; or.
(b) A bond in the amount of $100,000 per person and $200,000 per accident or occurrence made payable to State of Florida.
(2) Permittees obtaining and operating a commercial motor vehicle ....

For florida above.....

You can get a cheap yearly permit for up to 10 foot wide day time
towing and I never heard of anyone actually getting a ticket because the DOT only deals with commercial and the cops usually are not versed in the law here and think its the DOT's problem.

You will have to check for power lines and bridges if u are over 13' 6"

Check with the two states you are going through for their rules.


Check your boat insurance , car insurance and house insurance for limits.
But if don't have a permit and your insurance doesn't pay then its on you.

Good Luck



Squidd is that old pieces of wood pallets ur using on that trailer for bracing????
08-18-2012 10:38 AM
tommays
Re: Trailering a Pacific Seacraft 34

We also bring are boats home to do winter projects as its a PITA bringing all the tools to the yard and getting power for them

I have found the best deal is leaving the mast at the yard on there racks as it makes the projects difficult and there stepping it anyway



I took it off ONCE and put it in the back yard because i had to due new wire and standing rigging and NEVER again as i am still not sure how i carried the Cal 29 mast to the back yard by myself
08-18-2012 10:18 AM
Squidd
Re: Trailering a Pacific Seacraft 34

Go for it...





Just don't tip it over on the highway...and watch out for falling asteroids and space junk...

Haveing the boat at home to work on (especially if you have indoor work space) is just the ticket to getting all the "off season" work projects done...so you can actually "enjoy" the sailing season rather than a trip to the marina to work on the boat...

Permits and insurance is relatively cheap and easy to obtain...the hardware might cost a bit unless you are DIY capeable and have skills (bartering, favors, etc...)

I'm rolling for under half a G...Pretty..? No...But so what... My boat is safe at home in the barn all winter where I can work on it...and when the boats in the water...no one can see the trailer...
08-18-2012 09:55 AM
ParadiseParrot
Re: Trailering a Pacific Seacraft 34

People do all kinds of stupid things with a pickup and a trailer so just the fact that the guy "up the street" does it does not mean he is insured to do it. With no sliding bed trucks or cranes , big fork lifts I doubt strongly that he has rigging insurance.

What do u think will happen if it falls on a 4 lane road.
You have to pay for all the cop overtime for a start.
a real rigging crew will have to come out at emergency rate
There will be no end to costs fines etc.
Oil , Diesel on the Road ...Hazmat trucks will have to come.

IT goes on and on like a nightmare. Goodbye house/bank account/piggy bank.

Of course other posters will say I am full of it but it is what it is. I don't make the rules.

Also as far long time storage on a trailer. IT requires a very good fit or u end up will hull warpage. I have seen it on light weight power boats. My first sailboat I made from a kit.
IT was built on the trailer that came with it. 27 foot swing keel 5hp well ob little sloop.
The windage on that going down the road was bad enough. And rigging it was a PITA so I left it rigged in a field at the marina with the powerboat on trailers.

The only up side is u save a few hundred bucks over storing on the hard.
Hardly seems worth it.
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