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09-05-2012 01:27 PM
flo617
Re: spinnaker size

Well, I'm looking for a lighter air sail that would be somewhat flexible in its use and will carry the boat downwind and broad reach. if it allows me to do reaching in very light air, even better.

I do not need the ultimate performance downwind but my boat is a little heavy and the wind can get very light in the oakland estuary, it's too tempting to use the motor. In general, the wind in the sf bay tends to die as the winter sets in.

I want to movei n light air but I also want a sail that will keep together until say 10-15 knots and if I can keep my jib lowered but still hanked on in preparation for the passing of the SF slot that's even better.

I'll see if I can leave a little early and take measurement of my foredeck to be sure.
09-05-2012 07:40 AM
Minnewaska
Re: spinnaker size

Just to be sure you are familiar, there is a lot more to an AS than luff length. Where the draft is located, how deep it is, the cut of the foot, etc, etc. There are countless versions of AS sails, multiplied by the various different cloth weights.

Be sure you are very clear with your sail maker on the intended purpose for the sail and be sure they are very familiar with your boat. Is it all about downwind in light air, as your OP suggests? If so, the ideal sail for that condition would not allow for coming up on the wind much and could tear if the wind kicked up over 15 knots. If you want something more versatile, you will give up some downwind and/or very light air performance. Everything is a trade off.
09-05-2012 03:01 AM
SloopJonB
Re: spinnaker size

The used sail sites say that if you don't plan on racing, a chute within 10% up or down of the "correct" specs for your boat will work.
09-05-2012 12:44 AM
blt2ski
Re: spinnaker size

I would go longer, if you want a bit less SA go narrower! That should allow you both downwind and some reaching ability.

Reality is, if trying to go downwind, make it as big as possible both length and width. Especially since you are not racing nor trying to fit a given size rule.

To get a bit better straight down wind performance, once you are used to it, get an actual spin pole, attach it to the tack, some lines attached to the pole, you can pul the tack to the opposite side of the main, and get some better performance downwind. We've been ding that racing, works pretty well. Allows us to get into the 160-170 range vs only 140 without.

I've also seen a few folks try to wing on wing and AS like a jib, but with out a pole on the clew, that makes for a hard way to work, as the AS will collapse, or the main will gybe if you are not being really careful. I actually find a 155 on a whisker pole to be better than winging an AS to a degree.

I would also look at the CS/north AS if it is the correct sizeing. BUT, there are a few places that are doing some 30% off if you order by 9-15 to 30 and wait until march for delivery. So if you are a northern east coaster, out of the water from Oct to march/april.......that could be a better deal yet! altho if you sail year around as I do......maybe not. THen again, the winds are typically a bit stronger in the winter........but we still get a lot of calm days here in the salish sea......just a few less in the winter than summer.

Marty


Marty
09-04-2012 10:21 PM
MedSailor
Re: spinnaker size

Quote:
Originally Posted by flo617 View Post
Thanks for the replies.

I've been offered a 15% discount for a 2year old unused sail with the "Cruising Direct" logo instead of the North logo. The salesman offered that because my color choice was not in stock.

Bad idea?
GOOD IDEA. As long as the sail is the right size/shape that you want. Cruising Direct is made by North.

MedSailor
09-04-2012 07:15 PM
flo617
Re: spinnaker size

Thanks for the replies.

I've been offered a 15% discount for a 2year old unused sail with the "Cruising Direct" logo instead of the North logo. The salesman offered that because my color choice was not in stock.

Bad idea?
09-04-2012 03:23 PM
rhr1956
Re: spinnaker size

I ordered a sock this summer. The guy told me the sock should be about two feet shorter than the luff of the spinnaker. He was right. I've used it a couple times. Decided I didn't care for it much.
09-04-2012 03:06 PM
jsaronson
spinnaker size

You want the chute shorter than the I. You need to be able to ease the halyard or raise the tack depending on wind angle and strength.
09-04-2012 03:05 PM
SchockT
Re: spinnaker size

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Quote:
Originally Posted by flo617 View Post
Sorry, I meant that the sock forces to use a slightly shorter sail since it messes up the sail shape if there is not enough clearance on top
That is correct, you need a bit of space for the sock to bunch up. I believe some socks even have a strop or rod built in to them for this purpose.

Make sure you have planned out where you are going to fly the sail from before you size the sail. If you think you might want to use a sprit, make that decision before you order the sail. Once it is built there is no going back!
09-04-2012 02:14 PM
flo617
Re: spinnaker size

Sorry, I meant that the sock forces to use a slightly shorter sail since it messes up the sail shape if there is not enough clearance on top
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