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09-18-2012 10:10 AM
TakeFive
Re: Delaware River Marina questions

Here's video of our cruise up to Penns Landing Marina:

09-18-2012 06:44 AM
TakeFive
Re: Delaware River Marina questions

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Originally Posted by Flybyknight View Post
For the life of me I can not understand why anyone would want to moor a racer, and a Flying Scot is a blue blood racer. If I were lucky enough to own a Flying Scot I would dry sail it at Riverton. There you can keep it fully rigged (mast up) and launch and retrieve with a crane. All you need is a trailer. Among the advantages is that you can keep your bottom spotlessly clean, don't have to worry about debris hits, nor worry about rain sinking your boat, and also you can take it home with you in the off season.
dick
OP has small kids, so probably wants to be able to arrive at the boat and start sailing quickly without having to launch. But I'll let him answer for himself.
09-17-2012 11:05 PM
Flybyknight
Re: Delaware River Marina questions

For the life of me I can not understand why anyone would want to moor a racer, and a Flying Scot is a blue blood racer. If I were lucky enough to own a Flying Scot I would dry sail it at Riverton. There you can keep it fully rigged (mast up) and launch and retrieve with a crane. All you need is a trailer. Among the advantages is that you can keep your bottom spotlessly clean, don't have to worry about debris hits, nor worry about rain sinking your boat, and also you can take it home with you in the off season.
dick
09-17-2012 10:11 PM
TakeFive
Re: Delaware River Marina questions

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Originally Posted by jboat73 View Post
How was the weekend at the Penn's Landing marina? From when I've been down there, I don't think it offers much security from the land side (obviously none of them offer much security from the water side).

Were you there for the Flugtag event, or just a coincidence? It looks like fun, but I'm guessing the combination of the show, plus power boats plus alcohol can make for interesting sailing.
We had a very nice time. Our sailing skills have improved enough that the 24mph gusts were easily manageable, and our dog came with us (first time in 2 years) and was very calm. I did not know about the Flugtag until I ran into a bunch of powerboaters at our marina who were heading out to see it. We stayed away from the hundreds of boats that were anchored, and watched it with binoculars from across the river. The Penns Landing amphitheater had an audio/video feed, so we could hear what was going on as we watched through the binocs.

Penns Landing marina is a very neat location for a one night trip. The docks were a year old and very clean. You're really right near the heart of all the activity. Security was better than I expected. There was a keypunch gate that prevented unauthorized people from getting on the docks at all times. At 10pm the cops sweep people off the seawall and padlock a second gate that keeps everyone away (slip holders get a key to the padlock). The weekend dockmaster is a part time liveabord who was constantly out on the docks watching over things. All this adds up to very good security, at least on the day that I was there.

As for seasonal rental, I don't know their rates. Bathroom availability is a question mark. The manager told me on the phone that they have remotely located bathrooms and shower for guests, but they'll take you there on their golf cart. When my wife inquired with the weekend dockmaster about them, he told her that they were "employee only" bathrooms, and he'd "take you there if you really want to use them, but only from 9-5." When I returned to my marina, some of my neighbors said, "Oh we really hate him. He tells that to everyone - maybe he's the guy who has to clean them up." We used other bathrooms and didn't need showers for a one night stay.

They also have no gas, pumpout, or other services that I could see.

If I were considering it as a home base, the lack of free parking would be a turnoff for me. But if you live in the city and have good transit options, it might be a really neat place to keep your Flying Scot if their rates are competitive. Their lack of pumpout and gas would not be an issue for you.
09-17-2012 10:58 AM
jboat73
Re: Delaware River Marina questions

How was the weekend at the Penn's Landing marina? From when I've been down there, I don't think it offers much security from the land side (obviously none of them offer much security from the water side).

Were you there for the Flugtag event, or just a coincidence? It looks like fun, but I'm guessing the combination of the show, plus power boats plus alcohol can make for interesting sailing.
09-14-2012 05:31 PM
jboat73
Re: Delaware River Marina questions

Thanks for all of the responses.

I've put in some calls to several marinas (I won't name names) and haven't heard anything back. Is there a secret code to get people to call back? Is email better?
09-14-2012 03:06 PM
wmmulvey
Re: Delaware River Marina questions

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Originally Posted by jboat73 View Post
I'm looking for advice on which marina along the Delaware River to use.

Here's what I'm thinking:

1. I'm looking for a wet slip for a Flying Scot, 19 foot daysailor.
2. I live in downtown Philadelphia, and want to be close to the boat. I'm planning on mulitple short sails, like just a morning or afternoon. With other commitments and family, I don't see full days being an option too often.
3. I'd like to be able to extend the season, and maybe take advantage of those beautiful days that come up each winter (like 65 degrees in January); possibly keep the boat in the water through the winter.
4. I'm not planning on hanging out at the marina, so don't really care about cable tv, wifi, etc.
5. I do care about it being well maintained and safe (knowing that nowhere is perfect).
6. I need somewhere to keep the trailor.

The three candidates seem to be (in no particular order):

a. Phila Marine Center. Just north of the Ben Franklin bridge, next to Dave & Busters; about 10 mins from home. Seems fine, but probably noisy. Pricey.
b. The Piers Marina. Just south of the Ben Franklin bridge next to condos; also about 10 mins from home. Seems more cozy, maybe better protected. Seems to have more sailboats. Same price as Phila Marine Center.
c. Anchorage Marina. In Essington area, near the aiprt; about 30 mins from home. Protected area by Tinicum Island. Noise from the planes. Further away, much less expensive.

I know there are some places on the New Jersey side and also further north on the river, but they're all a bit further away.

Any opinions out there or other marinas close to downtown that I've missed?

Also, what do you think of keeping the boat in the water through the winter?

Thanks in advance.
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09-14-2012 12:32 PM
Ulladh
Re: Delaware River Marina questions

Admiral Dewey's flagship Olympia and the submarine Becun both across from the slips at Penn's Landing are well worth a visit.

I have not been in the restaurant on the clipper ship Moshula for a few years but that is also well worth a visit.
09-13-2012 10:44 PM
TakeFive
Re: Delaware River Marina questions

Quote:
Originally Posted by jboat73 View Post
...Is the concern debris in the water? Would the marinas be protected against this - it seems that Phila Marine and Piers are both quite protected. Maybe higher winds tipping the boat?
I spoke to Chuck at The Piers Marina yesterday about getting a transient slip this weekend, and he said that there is severe shoaling in the marina right now, and expected to stay that way until they dredge. You should keep this in mind, and don't sign a contract until you've confirmed that their dredging is compete and successful. He said they have their permits and should dredge this fall/winter. But do your due diligence, because these things have a way of being delayed for months or years.

The configuration of both of these marinas (surrounded on three sides) makes them very protected from currents. Debris will find its way in gradually and stay there forever until somone hauls it out. Silt will deposit gradually until they dredge, and then will start to deposit again. It's not a deal killer, but you need to be sure they stay on top of it.

The Piers is surrounded by buildings on three sides. This could protect pretty well from winds and gusty storms, but could also make it really bake in the summer. But I'm not speaking from any personal experience with these particular marinas, so try to get local knowledge from someone. When I was looking for marinas I hung around and walked the docks talking to people.

For this weekend we decided to try out the newly renovated Penns Landing marina. The bathrooms and showers are more remotely located there (if they exist at all - but Monica said they have them), but this isn't a big issue for a one night stopover. Looking at the satellite pic, it looks like a pretty neat setting to take a slip along the seawall only 100 feet from Moshulu, with River to the east and skyline to the west:


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09-08-2012 02:04 PM
chef2sail
Re: Delaware River Marina questions

Many boats on the mid Chesapeake like ours stay in the water year round. Our sailing season usually starts March 1 and ends December 15 when we winterized our water and engine systems.

Dave
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