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09-18-2012 04:26 PM
SchockT
Re: Rookie on a San Juan 21

Oh I see! It's just a quirk of that particular model. I thought it had something to do with the thunderstorms he was asking about!
09-18-2012 02:58 PM
PeterSailer
Re: Rookie on a San Juan 21

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Huh? I don't get it! What do you mean by "crossed" and how does it help?
What i mean is that the port cockpit drain pipe should be lead to the starboard through hull, and the starboard cockpit drain pipe should be lead to the port through hull.

That way, when your healed over, no water gets in the cockpit from the drains... the cockpit floor on this boat is very close to the water line, so when you heal to port, the port side of the cockpit gets under the water line and water comes up the drain ( not much, but enough to get your feet wet...).

Pierre
09-18-2012 02:43 PM
SchockT
Re: Rookie on a San Juan 21

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Originally Posted by PeterSailer View Post
Bring crackers and cheez whiz
And if cockpit drain are not crossed, cross them other wise you'll have water in the cockpit. When my friend bought he's first boat ( San Juan 21) they were not crossed and he was always anoyed by water coming in...

Have fun and reef early

Pierre
Huh? I don't get it! What do you mean by "crossed" and how does it help?
09-18-2012 01:28 PM
PeterSailer
Re: Rookie on a San Juan 21

Stay away from the mast, stays and shroud, pull pit and pushpit, life line, compression post...every part made out of steel. The best thing would be to get a shore but if not possible just keep going... I think you would be suprised how not often sailboat get hit by a lightning strike.( any 1 here got hit??)

Make sure that your boat is grounded properly, usally a heavy wirer runs from the shroud/stays to the keel or a bronze plate that is through bolted to the hull under the water line, usally on the keel but i'm not sure that would work on the San Juan. I even saw boats where the wirer lead to the motor. (inboard engines)

Anchoring doesn't really groud your boat properly, even if you have all chain rode.. the electrical contact is poor between the chain links.

Oh yeah and if you can, put all your electronics in a metal box or in the oven.

Pierre
09-18-2012 01:18 PM
PeterSailer
Re: Rookie on a San Juan 21

Bring crackers and cheez whiz
And if cockpit drain are not crossed, cross them other wise you'll have water in the cockpit. When my friend bought he's first boat ( San Juan 21) they were not crossed and he was always anoyed by water coming in...

Have fun and reef early

Pierre
09-18-2012 12:35 PM
Land_Bound
Re: Rookie on a San Juan 21

Thanks again for the information! Another quick rookie question for the community. Canyon Ferry often receives quick and powerful thunderstorms in the fall. The lake lies within a rather large valley, but storms seem to develop quickly and unexpectedly over the mountains. If living aboard a boat, what is the protocol in the event of a lightning storm? I would assume you would lower sails , anchor and hunker down inside the cabin. Is there a better option? Getting to land would be something I would assume that would make a lot of sense, but what if it was unreasonable to get there? Any information on this would be very appreciated!

Kyle
09-16-2012 05:27 PM
JBIZZ
Re: Rookie on a San Juan 21

There are a lot of good sailing instructional videos on Youtube. Familiarize yourself w/ navigational rules as well. Maybe take a Coastguard auxiliary coarse when you get a chance if there's one in your area. Smartphones are a great navigational tool, as long as they are in a waterproof case. I use Navionics, INavX, Anchoralarm, Google Earth, Tides, Radar & Weatherunderground apps.
09-12-2012 04:27 PM
tsuidc
Re: Rookie on a San Juan 21

Thirty years ago, my wife and I sailed a San Juan 21 for a month, from Anacortes in Washington to the Canadian Gulf Island. Though these days we cruise off shore in boats as big as the Valiant 42, I still consider my trip in the San Juan 21 the most fun I've ever had. Cruising at its simplest...just sailed, anchored or tied up to a provincial dock, ate what we caught or could dig up, read by kerosene lamp and woke up to the Pacific Northwest mist. No worries, almost no maintenance because we had no systems to speak of. A little cheap weather radio was the only electronics we had, and navigation was by charts and bearing compass. We did carry a huge backup storm anchor and a lead line for sounding. Those were the good old care free days before big boats. Well, we were a lot younger and suppler then.

You are doing the right thing learning to sail in a small responsive boat. If possible, joint a SJ 21 fleet and do as much racing as you can. Don't be embarrassed for coming in last or making a fool of yourself, we have all been there. It is the best way to learn to sail. You never know, thirty years from now when you are cruising in you big complicated boat, you too may look back fondly.
09-12-2012 03:22 AM
Land_Bound
Re: Rookie on a San Juan 21

Thank you everybody for the awesome advice! I cant wait to get on the water. Hopefully its just the beginning of a life of adventures on sailboats.

If anyones interested, attached is a link(cant do that yet) go to patagonia.com and type in Vertical Sailing Greenland. Its a cool video that got me inspired for this trip. Also 180 degrees south is a great documentary that is a definite must see.....


Cheers everybody and thanks again,

Kyle

Note: If anyone sees this and sails on canyon ferry my email is kyle.mehrens@gmail, id be more than willing to buy some beers to ride along on a trip just to see how things are done.... let me know!
09-10-2012 12:03 PM
Yankee
Re: Rookie on a San Juan 21

I've sailed and raced San Juan 21s for twenty-five years. (Just bought my fifth one this summer). A fellow in Helena bought two of my previous boats; an orange MkII and a robin egg blue MkI. He is one of several active racers in that area.
I would suggest that you look up some of the racers and ask for their advise and perhaps a sail one either your boat or theirs. On hand experience with someone who knows the boat is the best / fastest way to learn.
Good luck and have fun. YOu've got one of the best boats around. I'm not sure that I could spend two weeks on one, though...........
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