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10-03-2012 06:13 PM
ahab211
Re: Repair of broken hull around keel stub

I also have a C&C and have the front keel bolt pushed off center, probably from acprevious underwater collision. I've tightened the bolts and Bondoed a slight C&C smile Seam crack.i've bumped bottom a few times and my yard owner hit the wall and dragged it on the pavement several yards! These lead keels are very tough! From your pics the hull took a hell of a lick and had previous damage to boot. I'm not ready to give up on mine but your damage is too costly to repair! Having paid $2200 for my 1983 boat minus the motor, I would grab the insurance money and go shopping for another! I hear the water slapping on my hull on a heel and I imagine the keel coming loose. Would you feel safe even after repairs, I wouldn't. I couldn't imagine your insurance company not writing that damage off! Good luck!
10-03-2012 11:23 AM
rbrake
Re: Repair of broken hull around keel stub

Great article. I'd highly recommend the small random orbital buffer made by Shurehold. It's variable speed and relatively small for inside cockpits etc. Sheepskin pads for compounds, and foam pads for applications like Finessit II. Rubbing compounds work best at very low speeds and enough pressure to keep the pad from spinning. Always use a different pad as you work up the scale and mark them inside with a sharpie. You don't want rubbing compound contaminating a later buff or polish.
09-23-2012 12:26 PM
jgeissinger
Re: Repair of broken hull around keel stub/ Insurance claim

If the insurance company totals the boat and pays you for it, they then own the boat. Of course they will cancel the policy! Insurance companies do not have lists of people who have had claims, that they share with other insurance companies in order to prevent them from buying future insurance. That simply doesn't happen.

If you bought a used boat from a private party it is (in most states) "as is". If you had a survey it was for your own information and was as detailed as you asked for and paid for. You are not going to get any damages from anybody. You bought insurance for a reason, use it.
09-23-2012 10:33 AM
dongreerps
Re: Repair of broken hull around keel stub

Seen on a Tee Shirt:

I'd rather be in a boat with a drink on the rocks than in the drink with a boat of the rocks
09-23-2012 09:14 AM
sailortrash
Re: Repair of broken hull around keel stub

I agree you should go after the surveyor and previous owner. Get your money back and have them pay for the disposal.
09-21-2012 01:49 PM
mainer24
Re: Repair of broken hull around keel stub

The insurance carrier hasn't seen the boat yet ; they said on the phone they probably will "total" it but want to see it nevertheless - I'll know by monday. The difficulty of finding another insurance after that is one of my concerns indeed.
Agreed about granite ledges - at least, from now on, I will have more empathy for people who "try to move them" :-)
Thank you all for your very valuable imputs and advice !
09-18-2012 08:56 AM
Maine Sail
Re: Repair of broken hull around keel stub

I would strongly urge you to reconsider taking any money from the insurance company, or even notifying them of the accident. You may find that once they pay off, they shortly there after drop your policy. You will then have a VERY tough time finding a new insurer.

I had a customer of mine have this happen to him. They paid him to fix the keel then promptly dropped his policy come renewal time. It took him a very long time to find a new policy, which is not as good, and it now costs him about 4X what he was paying for his first policy. It is one thing in a "no fault" claim, eg: someone hit you at the dock, mooring etc, lightning, unpredicted storm, etc. but when you hit a ledge they tend to not like to insure those types of "risks"...

Chalk this up to "new boatitus" and find a new one but without the insurance company... Something to consider.

Granite ledges in Maine don't move, but you'd not be the first to have tried...
09-17-2012 07:14 PM
flyingjib
Re: Repair of broken hull around keel stub

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Originally Posted by rugosa View Post
That model was deck stepped I believe.
Yup. You're absolutely correct...
09-17-2012 07:12 PM
rugosa
Re: Repair of broken hull around keel stub

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Originally Posted by flyingjib View Post
Not defending the badly made repair but it does looks like a mast step repair job to me. I just had to do mine a month ago. C&C mast step on some hulls were made out of thin sheets of plywood sitting in the bilge water.
That model was deck stepped I believe.
09-17-2012 06:33 PM
jameswilson29
Re: Repair of broken hull around keel stub

One other thing I am confused about. You refer to the helmsman as the skipper. Does whoever is steering the boat assume command of the vessel?

As far as I am concerned, I remain the captain of the vessel whether I am on the bow or behind the wheel. As such, I am ultimately responsible for all that happens while underway.

In your scenario, since your friend was the skipper, why isn't he responsible for all the damage?
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