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09-27-2012 10:11 AM
Maine Sail
Re: Vinyl Striping vs. Painting?

On our boat the lower boot and cove stripes were painted with AwlCraft 2000. After it was done I decided it need a double boot. I used 3M tape, and found a perfect match in color to the Matterhorn White. The lower boot is tapered but the upper boot is not. It is not discernible. The top stripe is 3/4" and I really don't know how you'd get a 6" tape do conform and not have wrinkles and bubbles.

I cheated when applying ours. I used a 3/4" band of 3M Fine Line directly above & lining up perfectly with the top edge of the thick boot stripe. I then laid the white thinner boot to the 3M Fine Line the same as I did to the lower boot. It gave me the perfect lay over the entire distance. This takes practice but can be done I just don't know that it can easily be done with a 6" tape.

Our tape has held up very well but is not as durable as the AwlCraft 2000..

09-27-2012 09:33 AM
ltgoshen
Re: Vinyl Striping vs. Painting?

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Originally Posted by CorvetteGuy View Post
I did the water line in a 2 1/2 inch vinyl on my C&C Corvette about 8 years ago and it still looks good from a far but up close its far from good, small cracks have appered over the years. I also did the name in vinyl blue first then the same letters in gold but smaller on top, looks great and has been there for 15 years.
I know this was a long time back, I own a C&C 30 Mk1 with the -V- Shaped line just below the toe rail on the side you know the "C&C line". Anyway I was reading up on applying tape in this vee area. Is this what you did? If so, how long did it last and will you do it again?
Thanks for your help.
09-27-2012 06:06 AM
Kalina-Lona
Re: Vinyl Striping vs. Painting?

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Originally Posted by RichH View Post
Use 3M mylar 'fine line' tape for precise painted lines. Be sure to remove any waxes or silicone from the gel to ensure no 'bleeding' under the tape, press down the tape 'several times' and with 'dwell time' between the 'pressing' to ensure that the tape 'seals'. "Fine Line" is expensive, but nothing can beat it for painting a precise line. When applying keep a consistent pressure on the 'roll' as varying pressure can slightly change the width dimension of the tape.

example: 3M 218 Fine Line Masking Tape
Thank you very much!
09-27-2012 06:02 AM
Kalina-Lona
Re: Vinyl Striping vs. Painting?

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Originally Posted by rugosa View Post
Does that mean you scored the G28?
Yes, they have accepted my offer. I am having a survey completed and having the diesel mech. come and check the engine. I'd like to be able to start the Volvo Penta Model 2002 myself, I used the hand crank and it's not seized and started building up compression...so that's a good sign?

This boat has been on the hard for, well this is the third season. When the owners hauled out the last time, they winterized and just put things away like any other year. Some health? issues have made them not return and the marina is selling as abandoned. Other than dirty it's a real nice complete sailboat and looking forward to doing what's necessary to own our first sailboat. There is a lot of info. out there on the internet, the library, forums and everytime I go to the marina I meet new folks who seem interested in helping? Some things you wonder about and it seems nice to write forums and get good practical advice and answers.

Cheers,
09-26-2012 02:03 PM
US27inKS
Re: Vinyl Striping vs. Painting?

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Originally Posted by bobperry View Post
Rugger:
I think I just did.

Stripes on a hull can be critical. If you walk around a boat yard you are bound to see a poorly laid out bootstripe that dives down as it turns under the counter. The problem at the bow is not so noticable. But it is there. Once again, the vertical height must be maintained and that means the width of the strip must change. It must get wider as it approaches the transom. The exact amount it need to widen is controlled by the slope/deadrise of the section. If the boat has a very flat run the strip will need to be really wide. So a taped line cannot work. Unless the stripe is very thin and in most cases that would not look very good.

That said, if the stripe is high enough on the hull the topsides may be vertical enough so that you can get by with a tape width. But on a hull like, say amn Alberg 35 you MUST make the stripe wider as it wraps around the counter aft.
And that is why these gizmos were invented.
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09-26-2012 01:47 PM
bobperry
Re: Vinyl Striping vs. Painting?

Rugger:
I'll go walk my dogs and give you time to catch up.
09-26-2012 01:46 PM
rugosa
Re: Vinyl Striping vs. Painting?

[QUOTE=bobperry;926839]Rugger:
I think I just did.QUOTE]

You got me by 4 minutes Bob, but you are there and I am here 3 hours ahead, so I must have been reading your thoughts.

Do you have a clew where Raymond Wall is? I know he moved to BC, designed/built Quanta 28, but have no idea after that.
09-26-2012 01:29 PM
bobperry
Re: Vinyl Striping vs. Painting?

Rugger:
I think I just did.

Stripes on a hull can be critical. If you walk around a boat yard you are bound to see a poorly laid out bootstripe that dives down as it turns under the counter. The problem at the bow is not so noticable. But it is there. Once again, the vertical height must be maintained and that means the width of the strip must change. It must get wider as it approaches the transom. The exact amount it need to widen is controlled by the slope/deadrise of the section. If the boat has a very flat run the strip will need to be really wide. So a taped line cannot work. Unless the stripe is very thin and in most cases that would not look very good.

That said, if the stripe is high enough on the hull the topsides may be vertical enough so that you can get by with a tape width. But on a hull like, say amn Alberg 35 you MUST make the stripe wider as it wraps around the counter aft.
09-26-2012 01:10 PM
SloopJonB
Re: Vinyl Striping vs. Painting?

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Originally Posted by bobperry View Post
JonB:
The key with any bootstripe is to make sure that the vertical dimension is maintained, especially in the stern as the stripe goes under the counter. This means the actual stripe will have to get wider as it goes under the counter in order to maintain that constant vertical dimension. That can be tricky with tape. If the boot is a thin stripe this element is easier to deal with.
Exactly. I've never seen it done successfully with tape - it always looks thinner at the stern.
09-26-2012 12:47 PM
rugosa
Re: Vinyl Striping vs. Painting?

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Originally Posted by SchockT View Post
I'm not clear on why people say the boot stripe needs to be tapered. I used a roll of vinyl tape, and it looks just fine.
It boils down to personal taste and designer asthetics. Maybe Bob Perry can weigh in on this.
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