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10-07-2012 04:57 AM
Jgbrown
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Originally Posted by SloopJonB View Post
What happened was that he had earlier been involved in some sort of syndicated venture in England and he got screwed out of his share by his partners. It made him a control freak to the point that when he invented the screw head he wouldn't even license anybody to make them - they had to buy from him. The big manufacturers licensed Phillips instead and he lost out.



I've seen them a lot but only on electrical stuff - junction boxes, switches and receptacles.
And it was a real shame that he chose that route.


They are a perfect screw for the job, but making a specific bit for them is silly. From the side it looks like a large Phillips. Grabbed twice by mistake before I wised up and threw the bits out.


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10-06-2012 09:14 PM
SloopJonB
Re: Does anyone else do this while refitting?

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Originally Posted by Jgbrown View Post
Although the rules on export etc that he tried to enforce probably prevented a lot of the possible change over.
What happened was that he had earlier been involved in some sort of syndicated venture in England and he got screwed out of his share by his partners. It made him a control freak to the point that when he invented the screw head he wouldn't even license anybody to make them - they had to buy from him. The big manufacturers licensed Phillips instead and he lost out.

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Screw companies now make a screw that has both Robertson and slot in them, overlapping to allow for users to use whatever they have on hand. Milwaukee made a screwdriver bit to fit only these fasteners.
I've seen them a lot but only on electrical stuff - junction boxes, switches and receptacles.
10-06-2012 08:23 PM
Jgbrown
Re: Does anyone else do this while refitting?

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Originally Posted by SloopJonB View Post
Robertson did the world such a favour by inventing that screw head that it is incumbent upon us knowledgeable folk to educate the "square drive" ignoramuses.
Although the rules on export etc that he tried to enforce probably prevented a lot of the possible change over.


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Originally Posted by SchockT View Post
Now if we could just get a global ban on slot head screws the world would be a better place!
Milwaukee makes a new bit that I found in a set.

Screw companies now make a screw that has both Robertson and slot in them, overlapping to allow for users to use whatever they have on hand. Milwaukee made a screwdriver bit to fit only these fastners.




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Originally Posted by sww914 View Post
I'm still somewhere in the middle of our cruising while refitting. Up next are the watermaker install, SSB install, fix the solar panel wires, install floodlights on the bow sprit, finish the spreader lights, paint the cabin top, and on and on.
I haven't ever looked at yachtword to make me feel better but I'll be doing it now.
THANKS!
Works wonders.
Sounds like a great project :-)

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Originally Posted by barefootnavigator View Post
To the OP, I don't know what you consider to be a really long time but I once spent 798 days living in the boatyard doing a complete rebuild. When I would get really frustrated I would stop what I was doing and try and solve my Rubiks cube, after about 30 seconds of that the boat project seemed easy. Keep the faith my brother, there is always an end
And at the end, you start at the begining again.
Would be a bit easier if I could steal more than an occasional few hours to work on it, but it's better every day. How are things on your end these days?


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Originally Posted by SloopJonB View Post
Absolutely. There is a special place in Hell reserved for the person who created those horrible things - right next to the inventor of voicemail.
Yup, I'll agree with that. doubly so those who use them in Brass or plated steel in boats.

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Originally Posted by Stumble View Post
Sad but true...

I just quoted a company for 15,000 titanium machine screws all in slotted. I begged the purchaser to switch at least to Phillips drive, but all he could tell me was that the engineers specced them, so he had to order them. I even had the project manager calling him to beg to switch to Phillips, but no dice.
Oh that's cruel.
10-06-2012 06:56 PM
Stumble
Re: Does anyone else do this while refitting?

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Originally Posted by SloopJonB View Post
Absolutely. There is a special place in Hell reserved for the person who created those horrible things - right next to the inventor of voicemail.
Sad but true...

I just quoted a company for 15,000 titanium machine screws all in slotted. I begged the purchaser to switch at least to Phillips drive, but all he could tell me was that the engineers specced them, so he had to order them. I even had the project manager calling him to beg to switch to Phillips, but no dice.
10-06-2012 01:06 PM
barefootnavigator
Re: Does anyone else do this while refitting?

To the OP, I don't know what you consider to be a really long time but I once spent 798 days living in the boatyard doing a complete rebuild. When I would get really frustrated I would stop what I was doing and try and solve my Rubiks cube, after about 30 seconds of that the boat project seemed easy. Keep the faith my brother, there is always an end
10-03-2012 10:37 AM
SloopJonB
Re: Does anyone else do this while refitting?

Quote:
Originally Posted by SchockT View Post
Now if we could just get a global ban on slot head screws the world would be a better place!
Absolutely. There is a special place in Hell reserved for the person who created those horrible things - right next to the inventor of voicemail.
10-03-2012 04:19 AM
sww914
Re: Does anyone else do this while refitting?

I'm still somewhere in the middle of our cruising while refitting. Up next are the watermaker install, SSB install, fix the solar panel wires, install floodlights on the bow sprit, finish the spreader lights, paint the cabin top, and on and on.
I haven't ever looked at yachtword to make me feel better but I'll be doing it now.
THANKS!
10-03-2012 03:21 AM
SchockT
Re: Does anyone else do this while refitting?

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Originally Posted by SloopJonB View Post
Robertson did the world such a favour by inventing that screw head that it is incumbent upon us knowledgeable folk to educate the "square drive" ignoramuses.
Now if we could just get a global ban on slot head screws the world would be a better place!
10-02-2012 08:07 PM
Flybyknight
Re: Does anyone else do this while refitting?

My sink drain leads to a bucket.
I'm tired of messing around with through hulls.

Dick
10-02-2012 01:28 PM
SloopJonB
Re: Does anyone else do this while refitting?

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Originally Posted by Jgbrown View Post
American site primarily, half the time even here in town I get blank stares or a correction.
At least I know the story of Robertson and his drive design and the reason behind it. Gotta count for something right?

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Robertson did the world such a favour by inventing that screw head that it is incumbent upon us knowledgeable folk to educate the "square drive" ignoramuses.
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