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12-03-2012 06:06 PM
FlyingJunior
Re: Sailing dinghy w/o headsail

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Originally Posted by handsomebob View Post
FJ,

single handed today in 5-10 mph with a few gust a little more in my Snipe. With main and jib you will have more control. No need to use main only: you will just look like a puss. Just use the main to spill if you start to feel uncomfortable. No big deal tacking under both. Just have you main set and work the jib over to the other side and you will be set.
I agree, 5-10 is very comfortable for me where I am in my sailing right now, and these little boats move along just fine with this amount of wind. When winds get to 18+ it gets a little more hairy. My experience sailing cat-rigged boats is more extensive, regarding spilling the main (only) sail. Question, in a sloop, would spilling the jib offer just about as much relief, or because the jib is so much smaller than the mainsail, it would not? I was always taught (on keelboats) that the headsail is the power.

Thanks,

FJ
12-03-2012 06:01 PM
FlyingJunior
Re: Sailing dinghy w/o headsail

thanks, @handsomebob - I agree that tacking single-handed isn't a big deal, as the main is pretty well taken care of. Jibing gets a bit more complicated.

thanks also @deltaten, you're right, it's just a dink. I like the pulley idea. I saved myself the paltry 2.49 with my loop tied in my halyard!

The other thing about my low hanging boom, is that it's imperative the head of the mainsail is all the way to the top. In my experience, a bowline often has too much length of knot, and doesn't allow the head to get all the way up, thus resulting in a lower boom. Many shackles are also 3" or so long and result in the same issue. It seems it's blasphemy, but I've found that a round-turn-and-two-hitches works the best here, to raise the mail as high as it can go. A very secure knot and still easy to untie. Again, this is a dink, but let's not introduce bad habits, huh?
12-02-2012 09:42 PM
handsomebob
Re: Sailing dinghy w/o headsail

FJ,

single handed today in 5-10 mph with a few gust a little more in my Snipe. With main and jib you will have more control. No need to use main only: you will just look like a puss. Just use the main to spill if you start to feel uncomfortable. No big deal tacking under both. Just have you main set and work the jib over to the other side and you will be set.
11-27-2012 12:41 PM
handsomebob
Re: Sailing dinghy w/o headsail

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Originally Posted by FlyingJunior View Post
Ok, rigged boat up in the driveway today. I just wrapped the jib around the forestay, and secured it with a sail tie - easy! Also, I tied a loop into the jib halyard about 2 feet above where it gets cleated off when the jib is raised. With this loop, I can get more leverage on the halyard so that the luff is as tight as it can be - voila! I know there's a way to incorporate a block system for this purpose, but I'm not sure how to do that.
that is how I do it on my Snipe. I am a novice and tacking seems to work ok with only the main. I have started to single hand in light winds with both flying. I am sure to keep my feet under the hiking straps for puffs and have the jib sheet over my knee in in my lap.

With the jib rolled up if you decide to let it fly all you have to do is unfurl it while heading into the wind.
11-13-2012 11:56 PM
MarkSF
Re: Sailing dinghy w/o headsail

I,m assuming the jib luff is tensioned with some kind of highfield lever. In that case, yes the ideal is to have a dyneema "jib replacement" line, as you can't get the forestay tight enough. The forestay really just keeps the mast up while you're changing jibs. This is how my wayfarer was rigged, until I installed roller furling.
11-13-2012 11:16 PM
deltaten
Re: Sailing dinghy w/o headsail

Yer talkin' a dink here.. notta Endeavor 39!
Go to local Ace hardware or equiv. Find the pulley aisle. Pick up a brass/bronze and alloy or better yer, chrome plated block. Attach as needed and run line. Go sailing!
If it wears out or suffers corrosion, replace it for $2.49
10-07-2012 09:08 PM
FlyingJunior
Sailing dinghy w/o headsail

Ok, rigged boat up in the driveway today. I just wrapped the jib around the forestay, and secured it with a sail tie - easy! Also, I tied a loop into the jib halyard about 2 feet above where it gets cleated off when the jib is raised. With this loop, I can get more leverage on the halyard so that the luff is as tight as it can be - voila! I know there's a way to incorporate a block system for this purpose, but I'm not sure how to do that.
10-05-2012 01:05 AM
FlyingJunior
Sailing dinghy w/o headsail

I guess I'm failing to understand why it's tight, and then not. I thought from talking to others that this was the norm. Thank you for being patient with me and for your trouble, however. Maybe I will just wrap the headsail around its luff wire, and secure with sail ties.
10-05-2012 12:40 AM
overbored
Re: Sailing dinghy w/o headsail

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Originally Posted by FlyingJunior View Post
@overbored - I raise the mast, attach forestay tightly using shroud adjuster. Once the boom with mainsail are rigged, boom rides too low to sail, without using headsail. Don't know what else to say.
it should no be that low, check the forestay length. someone may have changed it with the wrong length.
10-05-2012 12:36 AM
FlyingJunior
Sailing dinghy w/o headsail

@overbored - I raise the mast, attach forestay tightly using shroud adjuster. Once the boom with mainsail are rigged, boom rides too low to sail, without using headsail. Don't know what else to say.
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