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11-07-2012 10:17 AM
smurphny
Re: Im buying a big boat! But i have never sailed

It sounds like you have quite a good grasp of the details of what you are going to do. Sometimes buying/selling things with people you know can present problems. Many friendships have been ruined by financial agreements.

As far as learning to sail her...just do it. Get someone to show you how. Read everything you can get your hands on. It's not rocket science. There are a zillion things you'll need to learn but I sense you'll skate through that. Just don't set off across an ocean before you've been out in crappy weather and know how to deal with nasty seas and high wind. You need practice and experience in what your boat can and can't do.

Are there things the boat needs to go offshore? Radios, EPIRB, radar? Liferaft, safety gear, watermaker, re-rigging. A boat can cost many thousands to bring up to snuff. Where will you dock it? How much will that cost? Boats require continual maintenance. Something is always breaking. How is the engine? Make up an Excel spreadsheet of projected expenses then add about 40% to see if you can afford it. Personally, I would never finance a boat and think it is a very bad thing for which to be in debt.
11-06-2012 08:59 PM
BillAU
Re: Im buying a big boat! But i have never sailed

G'day Ant,

First let me say...I really do like properly designed and well built Ferro-Cement boats and, from what you say in your post, this boat is definitely a well designed and built boat!
You say the PO had a plastering team fly-out from Hartley, New Zealand, to plaster the boat, (Wow! Now that cost alone could have bought the builder a second-hand plastic boat ) so that tells me that your Dad's mate did not skimp on the build. (He must be worth a few bob ) You also said, the yacht has all the Lloyd’s certificates, great! You can bet your life, (and you will be betting your life, all folk of the sea do so every time they go to sea) your FC boat HAS been properly designed and built to specifications...Even though I believe, at 50,000GBP, your paying way to much for the boat.
Similar well designed/built FC boats can be found in AU and NZ for 35,000 DOLLARS and upwards, depending on size, and FC boats are much cheaper in the States but then, a boat, any boat, like anything else second hand, is worth only what a buyer is willing to pay for it.

You said the boat is a Bilge Keeler. i.e. You can sail up to a beach at high tide and wait for the tide to go out, leaving the boat sitting upright on the sand, then walk ashore. So the boat is shallow draught, if that is so, perhaps you could nip over to France, enter the French canal system and go down to the Med using the canals. It's been well over forty years since I've been in the Med and I entered from the North Atlantic, I was told of the France/Med connection by other seamen in the local Greek bar, so perhaps others who have used the French canal system could advise you better on that system.

Good luck with all your plans Ant.

Bill
Australia
10-26-2012 04:17 PM
Mani Moana
Re: Im buying a big boat! But i have never sailed

Mediterranean is rough... Atlantic is cool but might frighten you at the beginning... the best way to learn: listen sailors talking and go for it!
10-15-2012 02:56 PM
SeaQuinn
Re: Im buying a big boat! But i have never sailed

Only advice I have for you right now is to hold off on the TV's and recovering the cushions until you pay for getting the boat in the water, paying for the insurance and paying for any of the systems that need maintenance or malfunction in the first month you have the boat in the water......also use some of your leftover cash to get some formal sailing lessons.

Best of luck with your new boat.....hope it turns out well for you!
10-15-2012 12:50 PM
smallboatlover
Re: Im buying a big boat! But i have never sailed

im 16 when im 37 i hope to be one a boat maybe bigger then 37 and cruising the world.
10-15-2012 10:13 AM
Minnewaska
Re: Im buying a big boat! But i have never sailed

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Originally Posted by smallboatlover View Post
hey seaboy go for it get the boat you will figure out every thing as you go. thats what i do i got a boat and the day i got the boat i lost my job. so no income but i make work out and my boats still floating and sailing just fine. im also only 16. so if you 37 your a little late but you can still make it work.
This kid has moxie. I like that, even if I don't agree with the advice and 37 isn't too late for anything. I know a guy that just got his pilots license at 66.
10-15-2012 08:29 AM
smallboatlover
Re: Im buying a big boat! But i have never sailed

hey seaboy go for it get the boat you will figure out every thing as you go. thats what i do i got a boat and the day i got the boat i lost my job. so no income but i make work out and my boats still floating and sailing just fine. im also only 16. so if you 37 your a little late but you can still make it work.
10-14-2012 02:21 PM
CarbonSink62
Re: Im buying a big boat! But i have never sailed

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...I learned life lessons I will never forget and discovered talents I never thought I had. And I found a community I will forever feel a part of, regardless if I'm landlocked or at sea.
Is it dusty in here? (sniff!)
10-14-2012 12:01 PM
Deric
Im buying a big boat! But i have never sailed

Little or no experience + sailboat + sailing time = additional gained experience.

I believe the thought of this thread is for one to acquire experience safely; hence, the many recommendations of suggestions to start on a smaller boat. Of course, safe is not only for the new sailor but for others who share the waters with the new sailor.

Fair winds,
GreatKetch33
10-12-2012 08:55 PM
Waltthesalt
Re: Im buying a big boat! But i have never sailed

Looks like a good boat to live aboard. A lot of boat to handle without an experienced crew. Recommend that you start small. The operating and maintenance costs on a 38 ft boat will astound you. A lot depends on construction and age. If not living aboard I think it is far more practical to have a small boat to learn and knock about on and charter a big boat for a cruise when you're ready experience wise. that will give you an idea whether an investment in a big boat it right for you.. the bigger the boat is the less you'll get out on it.
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