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06-06-2013 10:39 AM
ltgoshen
Re: Is the C&C 30 MK1 a capible offshore boat?

Just a little update to the first port hop I did on Memorial weekend.
Thanks for all the advise and help.
This is a great site for people learning and willing to listen.






S/V East Coast Lady
05-06-2013 06:50 PM
killarney_sailor
Re: Is the C&C 30 MK1 a capible offshore boat?

Have fun. Sometime this summer you want to do at least a couple of overnights so you know what that is like. You probably need lee cloths to keep you in the berths in even middling ocean waves (say 10 footers).

Couple of other hints, the trip to/from Bermuda is terrific and can be really easy or a real challenge. Try not to have too rigid a schedule that forces a departure in less than ideal conditions. Sometimes waiting even two days can make a huge difference. Check the Bermuda Harbour Radio website well before you go. They have an information form that must be filled out and submitted before departure. If you are taking any crew you must have an EPIRB and real life raft. Not having these is completely irresponsible.

Once you are sure of the integrity of your boat, and there is no reason to think that the C&C is not up to a Mayish trip, think about redundancy, especially for your autopilot. These things break down frequently and hand steering is no fun after a few days. There is a good chance that you will have periods of little or no wind. I would be inclined to want to sail rather than motor. It is a sailboat and if you were in a hurry to get to Bermuda you would fly. Practice sailing your boat in light stuff and if you are not comfortable with the speed keep your eyes open for a used cruising spinnaker with a sock. You could save the cost in fuel.

Think about energy usage especially if you do not have wind or solar power. Changing to LEDs, especially for running and anchor lights, is wonderful and definitely pays for itself in fuel saving.

Are you planning to anchor or tie up in St George's? The latter is not always possible so you will need decent ground tackle and a dinghy for getting ashore. Last time we were there dockage was $1.25/ft although there were a few free spots but always full.

A dark and stormy at the White Horse Tavern on arrival is a tradition, although I seem to remember not stopping at one. BTW, my first arrival off Bermuda in 1982 remains a highlight of my sailing life. sure you will feel the same.
05-06-2013 11:55 AM
ltgoshen
Re: Is the C&C 30 MK1 a capible offshore boat?

O.K well here we go. I have committed deb and I to a 2 night 3 day sail on the upcoming Memorial day weekend. It will be around 70 miles and we will dock the first night on Hilton head at the marina. Hilton Head Harbor
from there we will head out to the THE BLUE BOUNDARY separating Hilton Head Island from the mainland is a wide, sweeping waterway named Calibogue Sound. The sound is melded from the confluence of Mackay Creek, May River, Cooper River, Broad Creek, and six tributaries on Hilton Head Island. Deep and 13 miles long, this waterway curves like the body of a dolphin and connects the Atlantic Ocean with Port Royal Sound. It is a place of history and natural wonders, beckoning discovery.
From there we will head to the Freeport Marina on Dafuskie. This Island in only accessable by boat. It was named by the slaves of the time they called it "the first key" or DAFUSKIE.
We will leave there and head out to the Ocean at tybee roads the shipping channel for the Savannah river and make out turn northwest. Our praviling wind should be from the south putting us wind on wing or a broad reach. We will then make our way to the bell marker "G" at martins industry and make our way back in to the port Royal sound "Back in familure waters. Hope to be on a incoming tide where the 10 miles back home will be a brease.
thanks so much to all you guys for helping and guiding a newby in this process. I'm excited to get out there. I fear if I did not have yall guideing me along it would have taken years to prepair for this trip.[IMG][/IMG]
05-06-2013 10:51 AM
ltgoshen
Re: Is the C&C 30 MK1 a capible offshore boat?

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Originally Posted by msmith10 View Post
Definitely check your mast step, even if your rigging does tune well. This is a common failure on this boat, but not too hard a fix.
My other concern on this boat is the plexiglas portlights-these are too lightweight (1/8") and could be entirely blown in by a broadside from a breaking wave. At the very least I'd want covers I could bolt over them if I knew bad weather was coming.
As for carrying extra fuel, you probably have an Atomic 4, right? I'd rather run low on fuel than carry jerry cans of gasoline, unless you can secure them well and protected.
I'd get to know your boat very well before I'd feel comfortable doing the planned trip. I think the boat is capable if it's in A1 shape, but you want to know where all the weak points are and fix them first.
The Mast step is on a alumumn mount and in great shape, I have tuned the rigg with a fellow sailboat owner at the dock and now seams fine under a windward load.
10-16-2012 05:45 PM
flyingjib
Re: Is the C&C 30 MK1 a capible offshore boat?

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Originally Posted by ltgoshen View Post
The Older C&C 30's were sitting on wood mine is the newer model made with an aluminum mast steep thru the cabin and mounted otop the keel. It is strong. I have inspected the Standing rigging all looks good. I do have an instrument to tune the rigging and the instructions for doing so. I was just asking how much slack i should expect when under a good blow. By the way I am Planning fy first Port Hop. Looks like the weekend of November 9-11. Weather permitting of course we will shag down to the Georgia coast. Then head back up to hilton head to spend the night at Scull Creek Marina. Then back out side to the bell marker then back to Beaufort. I'm excited.
Thanks fior your help.
I'm the "other C&C in Annapolis" BubbleheadMd has mentioned here. I ended up rebuilding my mast step. It was all rotted away. PITA but nothing complicated and took a weekend. The new and improved mast step with addition of proper mast partners made things much better. No more flopping leeward shrouds...

As you said, I think from hull # 600 they switched to a sturdy aluminum mast step. No more half glassed water soaked plywood:

Here is how mine looked like:
10-12-2012 03:31 PM
ltgoshen
Re: Is the C&C 30 MK1 a capible offshore boat?

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Originally Posted by msmith10 View Post
That's good that you've got a diesel.
Get to know your boat. I've owned mine for 10 years, repaired or replaced all or part of every system, so I know what's in good shape and trustworthy and what isn't and will require attention in the future. That gives me an appropriate level of confidence and a strong working knowledge of the boat so in an emergency I know what's wrong and how to get at it and fix it.
Just a little back ground on The S/V eastcoastlady . She was on a mooring ball shin deep in rain water. her bimini was blowing in the wind Here is a list of what I have done.
1) pull out the Holli/teak soles replace with fake wood flooring
2) new bilg pump
3) all new halyards
4) All engine filters.
5) drain 17 gals of fuel and replace
6) new Head
7) Pro, cleaned all cusions with new plastic internal covers.
8) rebuild the 3 burner Pressure stove. Works great
9) tune the rigging
10) haul out have cleaned and painted.
11) stuffing box cleaned and repacked
12) New anchor rode and shackles.
13) new Garmin 215 installed.
14 New motor for the pressure water system
15) clean all 4 holding tanks out with bleach and Bacon soda
16) tighten all toe rail bolts to stop the rain water leaks.
__________________________________________________ ________

Left to do:
1) New Life lines
2) new Autohelm motor if and when I can find one.
3) Speed transducer trouble shoot and repair.
4) Sound proof the Engine locker.
So You are right it helps to get to know your boat for sure.
I got started in December and have spent like 4375 dollars not including the slip fees.
Thanks for the advise Im still learning but having a blast.
have a great week end.
10-12-2012 03:13 PM
chef2sail
Re: Is the C&C 30 MK1 a capible offshore boat?

LT,

Stick to you plan. The advice of finding someone to do some offshore passage making in the next 18 months is a good idea. Sans that taking a 3 day offshore sailing course will also help a lot too. You short coastal hops will be good experiene in understanding begnin as well as moderate ocean conditions, I am sure you are doing a lot of reading inyour preparations too. Keep moving forward.

Dave
10-12-2012 02:01 PM
rockDAWG
Re: Is the C&C 30 MK1 a capible offshore boat?

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Originally Posted by ltgoshen View Post
Yes Sir, I know Iím not ready as of yet. I am cautious. I WANT TO LIVE... HAHA any wa6y I will go for short day trips offshore for the next 18 months or so before I do a "TRIP" I want to really get to know the boat and its abilities. This takes a commitment to cast off every time I can and challenge the weather a bit. I need to learn to reef in a controlled environment, close to home. Port Royal sound is bought three and a half miles wide and 14 miles long. That may be just the ticket in the learning grounds. I will practice anchoring and standing 3 hour watches. I And you are right a bought this forum, I have met some great people that have done nothing but encourage me but at the same time keeping me safe with warnings and advise. I'm glad I found this site. Thanks again for your help.
If this has not crossed you mind and is not in your plan, please consider crewing an off shore voyage with other captains. There are plenty of nice and knowledge captains are willing to take on a newbies. Do this first before you venture out on you own C&C 30. I am sure your C&C will out live you and me.
10-12-2012 01:22 PM
msmith10
Re: Is the C&C 30 MK1 a capible offshore boat?

That's good that you've got a diesel.
Get to know your boat. I've owned mine for 10 years, repaired or replaced all or part of every system, so I know what's in good shape and trustworthy and what isn't and will require attention in the future. That gives me an appropriate level of confidence and a strong working knowledge of the boat so in an emergency I know what's wrong and how to get at it and fix it.
10-12-2012 01:06 PM
ltgoshen
Re: Is the C&C 30 MK1 a capible offshore boat?

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Originally Posted by jimjazzdad View Post
The question of whether such and such a boat is suitable to go bluewater sailing is best answered by another question: is the sailor ready to go bluewater sailing?

The old saying about the boat being able to take more punishment than her people rings true. If you know your boat and know yourself, you will know if your C&C 30 Mk1 will take you to Bermuda safely. If you are not sure, get all the experience you can, on the water and from forums like this too.

Good luck and see you out there one of these days...
Yes Sir, I know Iím not ready as of yet. I am cautious. I WANT TO LIVE... HAHA any wa6y I will go for short day trips offshore for the next 18 months or so before I do a "TRIP" I want to really get to know the boat and its abilities. This takes a commitment to cast off every time I can and challenge the weather a bit. I need to learn to reef in a controlled environment, close to home. Port Royal sound is bought three and a half miles wide and 14 miles long. That may be just the ticket in the learning grounds. I will practice anchoring and standing 3 hour watches. I And you are right a bought this forum, I have met some great people that have done nothing but encourage me but at the same time keeping me safe with warnings and advise. I'm glad I found this site. Thanks again for your help.
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