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10-11-2012 03:03 PM
casey1999
Re: Medical Evacuation on Maui Return

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Originally Posted by jackdale View Post
Thanks Casey

Sat Phone it is. Unless you want to send an email.
Jack,
Went to the AMVER site and found some good procedures:

http://www.amver.com/manual/AMVER_SRM_English.pdf

Note on page 4 (labeled ii) it says use VHF, SSB, or SAT, if no response, then set off EPIRB.

The emergency SSB freqs are labeled in box to right, but according to e-mail, these are no longer monitored.

Regards
10-11-2012 02:06 PM
jackdale
Re: Medical Evacuation on Maui Return

Thanks Casey

Sat Phone it is. Unless you want to send an email.
10-11-2012 01:59 PM
casey1999
Re: Medical Evacuation on Maui Return

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Originally Posted by jackdale View Post
I was actually hoping that another vessel would be monitoring 2182. As it was the closet vessel, Navarino, was 320 miles away.
Jack, FYI:
I sent the following e-mail to the Honolulu Sector Coast Guard through their web site (note the answer seams to come from AMVER Team- not sure why):

Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 7:49 PM
To: OSC-DG-AMVER Team
Subject: Coast Guard Web Mail:
Category: AMVER

Subject: Coast Guard Web Mail:

Referrer: USCG Fourteenth District, Honolulu HI

Message:

Please tell me what Marine SSB frequencies you monitor 24 hours a day? This would be the freq I should use in case of a marine emergency.
Thanks


***Below is reply From Coast Guard sent via e-mail:***

Good morning,
Amver does not use Marine SSB frequencies to monitor marine emergencies. Sorry we cannot help. Please refer to our website though for more information on AMVER.

Amver Web: Amver.com - Automated Mutual-Assistance Vessel Rescue System - Home
Best regards,
~The Amver Team

****
So the question is how would you send out a Pan Pan or a Mayday call?
Seems one is forced to have a Sat phone now days.
10-10-2012 08:30 PM
jackdale
Re: Medical Evacuation on Maui Return

I was actually hoping that another vessel would be monitoring 2182. As it was the closet vessel, Navarino, was 320 miles away.
10-10-2012 08:25 PM
casey1999
Re: Medical Evacuation on Maui Return

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Originally Posted by jackdale View Post
I tried 2182. I know the SSB worked because we used a radio net everyday.

Having the sat phone and the number for CG Honolulu was great.
From Wikipedia:
"Range2182 kHz is analogous to channel 16 on the marine VHF band, but unlike VHF which is limited to ranges of about 20 to 50 nautical miles (40 to 90 km) depending on antenna height,[2] communications on 2182 kHz and nearby frequencies have a reliable range of around 50 to 150 nautical miles (90 to 280 km) during the day and 150 to 300 nautical miles (280 to 560 km) or sometimes more at night.[3] The reception range of even a well-equipped station can be severely limited in summer because of static caused by lightning."


So it looks like you would have been out of SSB range. I do not think the CG monitors a higher freq but one closer to say 14 Mhz would probably work better. I do not understand why CG does not monitor more frequencies, and understand they may stop monitoring 2182 Khz all together.
10-10-2012 08:19 PM
jackdale
Re: Medical Evacuation on Maui Return

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Jackdale,
Could you tell me what freqs you tried to reach the CG when using the SSB? I have SSB and curious how effective it is in an emergency. Have heard others say they were not able to reach CG when between Hawaii and CA.
Regards
I tried 2182. I know the SSB worked because we used a radio net everyday.

Having the sat phone and the number for CG Honolulu was great.
10-10-2012 08:10 PM
casey1999
Re: Medical Evacuation on Maui Return

Jackdale,
Could you tell me what freqs you tried to reach the CG when using the SSB? I have SSB and curious how effective it is in an emergency. Have heard others say they were not able to reach CG when between Hawaii and CA.
Regards
10-07-2012 09:22 PM
jackdale
Re: Medical Evacuation on Maui Return

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Originally Posted by Bilgewater View Post
Not sure what the source was but it was right after it happened. Google News is my home page and I have two custom sections I made for sailing news and another for shipping news. It magically appeared on one of those.
AMVER did issue a press release.

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Nice shots and actually it looks like pretty good weather for the recovery other than the swell I'm sure. Good work Jack and of course job well done by the boys from Navarino...cheers/hat's off.
I learned that it is easier to bring a 44 foot sailboat along side a 1100 foot container ship than vice versa. We were in the lee of Navarino in good conditions; that really helped.
10-07-2012 08:54 PM
Bilgewater
Re: Medical Evacuation on Maui Return

Not sure what the source was but it was right after it happened. Google News is my home page and I have two custom sections I made for sailing news and another for shipping news. It magically appeared on one of those.

Nice shots and actually it looks like pretty good weather for the recovery other than the swell I'm sure. Good work Jack and of course job well done by the boys from Navarino...cheers/hat's off.
10-07-2012 01:53 PM
jackdale
Re: Medical Evacuation on Maui Return

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That's quite the ride Jack. If you have them, please post some photos when you can. Very interesting turn of events.
Pictures posted. You indicated that you had heard about the evacuation when it happened. How did you learn about it.

Jack
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