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10-15-2012 08:44 PM
jbogart
Re: Pocketcruisers in central U.S.,and beyond

I sail a 24 ft Paceship Westwind which for me is a perfect boat. It is small enough to trailer around, though I prefer leaving it in a slip. It to has a centerboard but with 2300 lbs of lead in its belly. It is a little tender at first but quickly firms up and is surprisingly fast once you learn to sail her.

She has headroom about 5'6" with room for a small galley. I am converting the forward berths into a decent head and stowage so that I should be able to spend a little more time on the water in Lake Superior around the Apostle Islands.

After a three year refit I can't wait to get her back in the water this spring.
10-15-2012 08:05 PM
Zephuros
Re: Pocketcruisers in central U.S.,and beyond

I was interested in a Tangerine/Harkin 18, but I read today that these boats have big issues with crabbing and unable to hold a true heading.
I live in Oklahoma on a big lake with serious big wind and would hate to not be able to hold a true course due to the shallow draft keel and have to ride at anchor for 3 days waiting for a favorable wind. So I thought I'd find some pocket cruisers and ask you guys about it. WDYT?
10-15-2012 09:46 AM
ShoalFinder
Re: Pocketcruisers in central U.S.,and beyond

Haha! That just happened to me as well. There's a little island (glorfied sand bar with trees on it) in the bay here. I sailed my boat right up to the beach and let the kids off to play. You should have seen the faces of people cruising by. Another boat beached where we were and said, "We've NEVER seen a sailboat here. We didn't know it was possible!"

My rudder is about six inches deeper than my hull draft. I need a kickup rudder. Pulling the rudder off and putting it back on is a little bit of a pain.

Luckily on the Morgan, the swing keel doesn't take up any room in the cabin. It swings up into a pocket in the keel. (Which explains my 2 foot draft versus your 1 foot draft... you've got me seriously jealous here!) This little boat has 1400lbs of lead ballast, so the keel doesn't do anything for weight anyway. I never even put it down unless I'm offshore, because it does help for stablity in the swells and for reducing side slip. But most of my time is in the bay where I'm just sailing and not actually concerned about much more than a general direction.

I plan to do quite a bit of overnighting this fall and winter. Do I wish I had more room? Sure, at times. But honestly, this boat is so perfect that to justify a larger boat for me, it would have to be something I lived on. Anything bigger than this one would be worse all the way around on day sails in the bay and severely limit my shallow water gunkholing. Hell- I don't need a dinghy right now! No, if I go bigger it will be something over 30 feet, which will altogether change the way I use the boat. I can't see going slightly bigger, which would accomplish nothing meaningful for my purposes, and still be too small to live on. But that's just me. Horses for courses and all that.
10-14-2012 07:44 PM
nccouple
Re: Pocketcruisers in central U.S.,and beyond

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Originally Posted by ShoalFinder View Post
I am seriously loving my Morgan 22. With two feet of draft with the swing keel up, she goes anywhere. Yesterday on the bay in 20 knots she handled like a dream with me singlehanding her. No reefs, too much jib- I wanted to see how she would act. Even without the keel down she ate it up. Two fingers on the tiller with the boat heeled over on her side... I love this boat.
The swing keel is awesome except for the room it takes up in the cabin. I get funny looks from the power boaters, there wondering what is he doing here. Ive had sea tow hit me up on the radio to see if they could assist, told them I was just fine. Ill bet I draft less than they do at 12".
10-14-2012 06:46 PM
Tallswede
Re: Pocketcruisers in central U.S.,and beyond

I have a Hunter 23.5 and really like the boat. It is very roomy for it's size with a very nice cockpit. Not a huge amount of storage and water ballast makes for an initially tender boat. I reef early and don't seem to lose any speed. This would not be the boat for ocean crossing but I might be tempted to cross to the Bahamas from Florida with the right weather window. Poking around Galveston Bay and it's bayous seem to be what this boat is made for.

Kevin
10-14-2012 06:31 PM
Waltthesalt
Re: Pocketcruisers in central U.S.,and beyond

I have a Edy and Duff 21 ft Dovekie. It's built to be handy in shallow water though I've hae her in deep waters as well. There's a group interested in light trailer sailors called The Shallow Water Sailors. You can plug in and find info on events at their website.
10-14-2012 05:25 PM
ShoalFinder
Re: Pocketcruisers in central U.S.,and beyond

I am seriously loving my Morgan 22. With two feet of draft with the swing keel up, she goes anywhere. Yesterday on the bay in 20 knots she handled like a dream with me singlehanding her. No reefs, too much jib- I wanted to see how she would act. Even without the keel down she ate it up. Two fingers on the tiller with the boat heeled over on her side... I love this boat.
10-14-2012 05:03 PM
Kenn43
Re: Pocketcruisers in central U.S.,and beyond

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I have a gaff rigged Lyle Hess wood hulled pocket cruiser,very rare but a lot of upkeep. We have gone through the whole boat with our shipwright. Our overhaul is going on two years now, mostly I think because now that we have so much invested we are afraid to sail it. Thinking of getting a cheap 'plastic' boat. Also, it needs an exceptional owner who knows a lot about sailingl It's an around the world boat sitting at the dock. I guess we're builders, not sailors.
I would love to see some pictures. Hope you change your mind and sail her. Seems like a real downer moving from a wood boat you brought back to life to a cheap, plastic boat.
10-14-2012 04:35 PM
Tom Rand
Re: Pocketcruisers in central U.S.,and beyond

I have a gaff rigged Lyle Hess wood hulled pocket cruiser,very rare but a lot of upkeep. We have gone through the whole boat with our shipwright. Our overhaul is going on two years now, mostly I think because now that we have so much invested we are afraid to sail it. Thinking of getting a cheap 'plastic' boat. Also, it needs an exceptional owner who knows a lot about sailingl It's an around the world boat sitting at the dock. I guess we're builders, not sailors.
10-11-2012 06:57 PM
Kenn43
Re: Pocketcruisers in central U.S.,and beyond

+1 on the small cruising sailboat.
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