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10-26-2012 04:23 PM
Mani Moana
Re: Buying a 30-40 year old boat - your opinions

Boats before 80' s are usually a lot better than new boat. You seem to be a real do it yourself person and you shouldn't worry for problem such as the rigging, if you feel the need to be replace you can do it and put your fears away... but old boat are way stronger than new boat.
10-19-2012 03:31 PM
sneuman
Re: Buying a 30-40 year old boat - your opinions

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I'm not sure what marina you hang out in, but around my way I don't see many people like this. But I hope you are right, because I would love to see more people in a hurry to unload their "obsolete" 10 year old production boats for a bargain. Many of us here depend on those 10 year old boats (and even older ones) for our next upgrade.
I'm talking primarily about the high-end stuff. If you lived in or near Annapolis, you'd see it.
10-19-2012 01:33 PM
TakeFive
Re: Buying a 30-40 year old boat - your opinions

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...How many times have you been in a discussion about some modern production boat only to realize that you were talking about the 2002x version and the other person was talking about the 2004z variant - two entirely different boats? It's a marketing culture that's relatively new to boating, I think, in that boats are marketed more like cars. If you've got a 10-year old Beneteau, you aren't the big man on K dock. You envy the guy with last year's model. That churns those boats through the market, which is a very good thing for Beneteau and probably the reason why they are still in business and the folks at Valiant aren't.
I'm not sure what marina you hang out in, but around my way I don't see many people like this. But I hope you are right, because I would love to see more people in a hurry to unload their "obsolete" 10 year old production boats for a bargain. Many of us here depend on those 10 year old boats (and even older ones) for our next upgrade.
10-19-2012 09:44 AM
sneuman
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Having surveyed a number Whitby 42's and one that was recently listed for significantly more than 55K, I'd suggest than any Whitby in that price range is going to cost closer to 100k to make right. By "right" I mean functionally, safe and sound, not cosmetically perfect.
Fair enough. I'm not a surveyor and I was reaching for an analogy. I don't actually know much about Whitbys. My point is simply that the way many production boats are marketed today, with so many variants and so many changes from year to year, we have a tendency to become inured to it all. That's not saying anything about the quality of the boats themselves, which is good to excellent in my opinion.

How many times have you been in a discussion about some modern production boat only to realize that you were talking about the 2002x version and the other person was talking about the 2004z variant - two entirely different boats? It's a marketing culture that's relatively new to boating, I think, in that boats are marketed more like cars. If you've got a 10-year old Beneteau, you aren't the big man on K dock. You envy the guy with last year's model. That churns those boats through the market, which is a very good thing for Beneteau and probably the reason why they are still in business and the folks at Valiant aren't.
10-18-2012 08:58 PM
steve77
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I'm the fourth owner of #92 and I keep a kind of foto-record of the fleet here Pearson Triton. Would love to add your vessel.
That's a great site, it's nice to see those good old boats being so well cared for. I'd be happy to send you a picture of Gracie, is there a place on your site to do that? Send me a PM if you want to. My Triton was restored by the previous owner who had her for 13 years.

Steve
10-18-2012 06:59 PM
SkywalkerII
Re: Buying a 30-40 year old boat - your opinions

I'm the third and fifth owner of my 1966 Tartan 27. I wouldn't part with her...again.

Long story, but in the end it offers what I'm looking for in a boat.

It's not the age, it's the quality and the condition.
10-18-2012 06:33 PM
SayGudday
Re: Buying a 30-40 year old boat - your opinions

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I have a ton of old documentation (haven't sold the boat yet) and I'll look through it. I believe I'm the fourth owner, maybe third. Not sure off the top of my head, I'll see what I can find. It is hull #660.

Those Tritons were built to last.
I'm the fourth owner of #92 and I keep a kind of foto-record of the fleet here Pearson Triton. Would love to add your vessel.
10-18-2012 05:23 PM
boatpoker
Re: Buying a 30-40 year old boat - your opinions

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Compare that to a 1985 Whitby 42 I saw on Yachtworld for $55K. Probably in sailable shape. Surely needs some work, but even if you're putting $30K into it, you're still way ahead of the game.
Having surveyed a number Whitby 42's and one that was recently listed for significantly more than 55K, I'd suggest than any Whitby in that price range is going to cost closer to 100k to make right. By "right" I mean functionally, safe and sound, not cosmetically perfect.
10-18-2012 05:17 PM
steve77
Re: Buying a 30-40 year old boat - your opinions

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My 1960 Triton is structurally solid and I haven't done much to her other than converting her into a liveaboard boat. Had the usual breakages when I sailed her from SF to SD but other than that she's fine.

PS - Hey Steve77, do you know who bought your Triton?
I have a ton of old documentation (haven't sold the boat yet) and I'll look through it. I believe I'm the fourth owner, maybe third. Not sure off the top of my head, I'll see what I can find. It is hull #660.

Those Tritons were built to last.
10-18-2012 05:12 PM
SayGudday
Re: Buying a 30-40 year old boat - your opinions

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Three years ago I bought a 1966 Pearson Triton. The previous owner had it for 13 years and did some pretty extensive restoration work. I've had no problems with it... Well, none that were not of my own doing

I recently decided that I wanted something a little bigger so I bought a "newer" boat, a 1986 Catalina. A real "young 'un" at 26...
My 1960 Triton is structurally solid and I haven't done much to her other than converting her into a liveaboard boat. Had the usual breakages when I sailed her from SF to SD but other than that she's fine.

PS - Hey Steve77, do you know who bought your Triton?
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