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11-20-2012 01:51 AM
Faster
Re: Ketch racing - Any good books?

If you can find books or articles on the mid/late 80s Whitbread round the world races there was a phase where large ketches were used for that event.. I'd expect there's some info there.
11-19-2012 10:35 PM
aquavit362
Re: Ketch racing - Any good books?

We have an alerion express yawl 38 that races phrf in Bristol ri. The boat does very well overall in non- spinnaker. As a yawl with a base rating of 129 it is great in comparison to it sister fractional rigs At 111 with about 100ft less sail area and same hull form. Beautiful boat, classic above the water and speed below. Schumacher got it right if your going to sail a yawl.
10-25-2012 10:37 PM
paulk
Re: Ketch racing - Any good books?

The best way to race a ketch - or a yawl - will be to find a race that is a long broad reach. You'll be able to get all your sails set and drawing and make up your time on all the high aspect ratio sloops that always seem to disappear to windward. Put yarns on leading and trailing edges everywhere so you can trim to keep flow attached. We raced an H-28 for a number of years, and always tanked if there was much windward work.
10-25-2012 10:24 AM
ctl411
Re: Ketch racing - Any good books?

A mizzen staysail would be a good choice for cheap light air power. Look for used asymmetrical spinnakers to fly off mizzen mast.
10-25-2012 09:04 AM
segling
Re: Ketch racing - Any good books?

Thank you all for both fast and helpful replies. It seems kind of strange that finding exstensive material on how to best sail a ketch is so hard, considering how many aspects of it there is. Especially considering the multiple sail options for different reaches. I will use the advice you've given me, and hopefully get her to do some distances.

Does anyone have experience with a so-called fishermans sail? Its supposed to be a light jib which is hoisted upside down on the main backstay, and sheated to the mizzenmast top. It's a rather tempting option for us as we have very little money but happen to have a pretty light, reasonably sized genua.

Also, it turns out i had my deffenitions wrong, we do have a ketch.

Thanks again for all your help.
10-24-2012 08:05 PM
ctl411
Re: Ketch racing - Any good books?

Looked at my pile of books Sail Power is by Wallace Ross. Doesn't have much, few pages on mizzen staysails. Still a good sail trim book. Understanding Rigs and Rigging Richard Henderson has a little also. I sail a cutter and had sloops never a ketch or yawl so you may find other books. Try a search on Google it will probably be a older no longer in print type of book.
10-24-2012 07:28 PM
Jeff_H
Re: Ketch racing - Any good books?

By the way, FSMike is right, if the mizzen is behind the rudder post, you own a yawl and not a ketch. In that is the case, the mizzen is usually a lot smaller and less effective than on a ketch.

Jeff
10-24-2012 07:18 PM
floridajaxsailor
sail

There are some obtuse articles on the internet..

ps- what Jeff said is right on about starting at the jib in terms of your trimming
10-23-2012 10:59 PM
FSMike
Re: Ketch racing - Any good books?

Technically, a yawl has the mizzen mast stepped aft of the rudder post. I spent some years on a yawl, and most of the folks I knew with that rig dropped the mizzen if the apparent wind was much forward of the beam. The only reason for the rig was "rule beating" under the old CCA race rules.
As far as as true ketches go, Jeff knows more than I do, and what I do know agrees with his post.
10-23-2012 03:25 PM
ctl411
Re: Ketch racing - Any good books?

Sail Power is a good book, not all on ketches but covers all I think. Can't remember author right now. To figure out YOUR boat use the vmg function on your gps find out what work for different wind/sea and points of sail. Write it down, this helps when you are trying many things quickly. If you have someone else to take the notes even better than trying to do it all yourself.
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