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Where do the Cheoy Lee Folks Hangout?

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#1 ·
This forum does not see much traffic so I guess maybe there is somewhere else for them? I know about the CL Association but there is not much activity there, either.

Oh well, architecture and processes withstanding, sailing is sailing and there are many ways of getting from here to there. I still like the sort of classic styles of the last century but the modern shapes and configurations are as appealing as well.

Hope some folks are in the water or just about ready to go, it is May and the good part is coming on!

Bob
 
#10 ·
Cheoy Lee Clipper 36 in Charleston

Just bought a 36 Clipper in Charleston, SC. Was a well loved boat by old owner but was submerged for a day and not cleaned up or dried out. Lots of work to clean out the mud and restore all systems.
1971 Cheoy Lee Clipper
S/V Aurora
Charleston, SC
Owners: Jay Salley
Danny Covington
 
#15 · (Edited)
In my experience, Cheoy Lees' rigs tend to vary considerably from the published dimensions. You need to measure the actual boat if you need anything even remotely accurate.

I saw your post about shipping your boat to Annapolis. I hate to say this but shipping a Lion across the continent will probably cost half of what the boat could sell for on the east coast. (Most of the east coast boats were ordered for Long Island Sound and so had a tall rig and the optional lead ballast. This makes a west coast boat not as valuable on the east coast.)

If this is a totally wooden version, it will be pretty tough on the fastenings as well. You may end up having to recaulk and refasten when you get here since the trip dries out the planking, which allows the planks to work more and considering that the boat is being bounced and not uniformly supported in that condition it is pretty easy to strain the fastenings.

But that said, welcome to Annapolis. Its a great place to sail.

Jeff
 
#16 ·
In my experience, Cheoy Lees' rigs tend to vary considerably from the published dimensions. You need to measure the actual boat if you need anything even remotely accurate.

I saw your post about shipping your boat to Annapolis. I hate to say this but shipping a Lion across the continent will probably cost half of what the boat could sell for on the east coast. (Most of the east coast boats were ordered for Long Island Sound and so had a tall rig and the optional lead ballast. This makes a west coast boat not as valuable on the east coast.)

If this is a totally wooden version, it will be pretty tough on the fastenings as well. You may end up having to recaulk and refasten when you get here since the trip dries out the planking, which allows the planks to work more and considering that the boat is being bounced and not uniformly supported in that condition it is pretty easy to strain the fastenings.

But that said, welcome to Annapolis. Its a great place to sail.

Jeff
Hey Jeff, I appreciate your concern. I have a firm quote to ship the boat for $5,600. The boat is worth at least $35,000. (It is a Robb, not a Lion- not that it matters) Besides, we love the boat and are not considering resale value as a factor as we plan to own the boat for many many years.

She is the totally wooden version planked in teak and is fastened with silicone bronze. The boat made almost the identical trip in 2004 when the previous owner shipped her out here from New York. I am concerned however about the stress on the hull as she is an old girl that needs a bit of love. I currently work in a boatyard and I have had a marine surveyor and shipwright both look over the hull. They both seem to think she will make the journey just fine.

Never the less, I am still concerned with the issues you bring up and I welcome any recommendations for boatyards in Annapolis for the unload... or yards with wooden boat experience if we end up needing to do any of the repairs you mentioned.
 
#22 ·
Just letting you know some good resources for Cheoy Lee folks!

You can sign up to our newsletter on our website, cheoyleeriviera.com, by clicking 'Subscribe to Newsletter' on the top right.

We're also on Facebook (facebook.com/cheoyleerivierayachts) and Twitter (@CheoyLeeRiviera).

Message us with any questions at all!
 
#24 · (Edited)
I've also recently bought a CL Clipper 33. I think they are very unique and definitely a head turner at any marina. Don't know about the Offshore 33 but mine is built like a brick sh*t house.

I think there is info on them out there but they are all scattered throughout the cyberspace. I think I've seen all there is to see about CL on the web (at least for the Clipper 33). I've gone as far as page 10 on the Goolgle search, lol.

I've also looked at the CL association page, a great effort but very very dated and difficult to navigate, especially the forum, and unfortunately, a lot of their links are no longer valid. I've also ran into a few blogs out there on the web and they do provide some info, here and there. There's also a "Cheoy Lee Sailboat Owners" group on Facebook as well.

The info is out there but you do have to spend a lot of time searching. I think that there might be more info on the Offshore 33 since I think there are more of them out there than the Clipper 33.

Love my boat, she's not pristine nor problem free but she has everything that I want in a boat. I hope you will enjoy yours.
 
#25 ·
I know what your saying , you really have to dig. The offshore is built like a tank, I absolutely love it. I picked her up last Saturday and took it right out into 20 knots, couldn't get enough.
I wish I could find the origanel manual. I tried Cheoy Lee, but haven't heard anything yet.
Like you, I have to do some sanding and refinishing, mostly interior though. The previous owner took some pride in the teak deck. No leaks!
Everyone was warning me not to go with a vessel that had so much wood, but I just didn't want to join the Catalina crowd. They're like a belly button, everyone has one.
May change my tune in a few years, but I can't see that happening.
 
#26 ·
I have some work to do on mine as well but I must first rewire the whole boat. Previous owner said that he didn't do it but the wiring on my boat was atrocious and unsafe. I've since ripped them all out, feet and feet of solid copper wires, some were even exposed. Well, I wanted to update all of the electrical and electronics anyway. I want her to be a nice old boat with modern updated equipment.

I was also warned about the Cheoy Lees but I've already fallen in love so there was no swaying me. I love the fact she has lots of wood. The previous owner has also recently removed the teak deck since he said that they were leaking. One day, I'd like to replace all that with the'Teak Decking Systems', real teak but glued on.

Know exactly what you mean, 'Catalina crowd'. They just look like all other sailboats that are out there, lost in the sea of white plastics. With CL, I can just look at all the masts and the one with two vanished wooden ones is mine :)

I don't race so I'm very with her performance. I single-hand the boat and the hardest thing I've encounter so far is docking. Lots of mass and inertia for a 33 foot boat, but so far so good. I think I'm in it for a long haul.
 
#27 ·
One of things I was warned about was the "leaky teaking" label. I live on vancouver island in British Columbia, it rains here a lot, and she's dryer inside than my old US25. I contribute the dryness to the previous owners keeping up the maintenance.
Like you say, I'm in love and its a pride in ownership thing!
I know what your saying about the weight and length, with the bowsprit she's 36'. Coming in at a healthy 10500lbs its a far cry from docking m old boat.
The electronics are up too date. There is a perkins m30 that runs great. My priority is to get the masts lacquered when the weather gets better. Have you any experience with this?
 
#28 ·
I've no experience with lacquering or varnishing the masts, not yet any how since mine are pretty well lacquered. May be in a few years. I'm tracing one small leak above the left settee at the moment but it's not too bad but still bothers me.

Beautiful place, Vancouver Island, I used to date a girl from Nanaimo. :)
 
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