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10-30-2012 03:41 PM
HighFly_27
Re: Need Some Advice on (6) Mo. Provisioning

SD1953

Advice Point(s) Well Taken (above advice).

I'm a big soup guy (cans) and microwave everything. I never thought of the vacuum sealing deal to store things better.

Thanks for Advice,

Avery
10-30-2012 03:29 PM
sd1953
Re: Need Some Advice on (6) Mo. Provisioning

Okay, some stops not NO STOPS...
In a previous response someone said that there are foods that are readily available everywhere. Buy that locally... someone else pays the freight to ship it!
Look at the provisioning threads on pressure cookers (I just bought one) and learn to use it before setting out. Propane or alcohol fuel will be a limiting factor no matter what you cook. The pressure cooker will allow you to use less fuel to accomplish the cooking. I also just bought a Thermos pot. Good for soups, beans and stews... bring it to a boil, place in the Thermos and allow the residual heat to cook it for a couple of hours. Much less fuel use.
Not sure I would go with a lot of canned foods. Cans would be hard (inefficient?) to store, being round and leaving lots of gaps between.
As I said in my earlier post, use a vacuum seal a meal device to make a more stowage friendly package. It also is see through, so you know what is in it. Dehydrated onions, celery and carrots can be packed that way and used in all your recipes. And in smaller packs than the #10 cans that the dehydrated stuff is sold in (IIRC a #10 can holds a gallon). The vacuum sealed plastic packs can be placed in tupperware bins and packed under settees and such.
You will want to be able to eat on board as do now ashore. If you eat out of cans now, plan on cans aboard. If you don't do a lot of cans now, figure out how to maintain a similar diet (taste as well as nutrients) aboard. Sailing will make you happy, but not if the galley makes you sick!
10-30-2012 02:35 PM
HighFly_27
Re: Need Some Advice on (6) Mo. Provisioning

Yes, I have a nice 3k that's almost new, runs cheap. I have 10K; 3rd is 15 k , 4th one is a diesel at 35 K but too big for boat. The last 3 are milltary surplus gen's., big and weigh a lot.

I thought.. I'd look around for a smaller diesel, rated at 12 to 15 K. I might take the little 3 K, small, quiet, cheap to run as a back up. I don't like gas on board, always a concern but not so much with this little gen. . The power boats have carb. fires, line leakage & all that.

The reason.. I was thinking of a 12 to 15 K Gen., my cooling system is old and problem-matic. Thinking about 15K A/C and installing at forward hatch, also 3 way marine frig. . This would get rid of all my 42 year old problem ( old A/C & Cold Box) childs. I'm use to having A/C and don't want to be in a sweat box. My windows do not open and no air flow to speak of... so sweat box is the right description.
10-30-2012 12:05 PM
Minnewaska
Re: Need Some Advice on (6) Mo. Provisioning

Do you have a genset? If so, bring a vacuum packer.

Canned food is usually pretty bad for you.
10-30-2012 11:31 AM
HighFly_27
Re: Need Some Advice on (6) Mo. Provisioning

I did not say No Stops, said that... I would not stop that much. I don't have anyone to go with me. If I fool around, perhaps, health wise.. I will never go. I will end up with an Islander 37 as a giant lawn item that's just a little too big to fit in with everything else (dumb joke).

Also, I'm a lone wolf type guy and grew up that way, at 64, too old to change.. I think. I want to sail here & there on my own schedule. I will stop in at different marina's that are friendly places to visit. I want to load up from day one with all the canned foods that I like and buy what I need (diesel, get loaded up with water, etc.) along the way.. that's my mission plan (so-to-speak).
10-30-2012 11:25 AM
chucklesR
Re: Need Some Advice on (6) Mo. Provisioning

Toilet paper is a luxury most of the world does without. Washcloth and frequent rinsing (over the side even) works.

In the Navy, we quickly learned to carry a roll of our own in most 3rd world port visits.
Turkey was not a fun place to be back then, squat over a hole
10-30-2012 10:57 AM
Minnewaska
Re: Need Some Advice on (6) Mo. Provisioning

Would stopping every couple of weeks be acceptable? If so, your 100 gallons on board will be fine for washing and cooking and you'll only need drinking water. I plan 1 gallon per day per person to drink, plus spares. Always have backup supply for leaks and I highly recommend at least a manually emergency watermarker.

If you're staying away from port for more than two weeks at a time, I don't really understand how it matters where you are?

I also recommend this book on provisioning and cooking. He makes a very good point about stocking things you can't get anywhere, but not so much on things available everywhere. Rice and beans, for example, are available nearly anywhere in the world. Toilet paper may not be.

Cruising Chef Cookbook,2nd ed.: Michael Greenwald: 9780939837465: Amazon.com: Books Cruising Chef Cookbook,2nd ed.: Michael Greenwald: 9780939837465: Amazon.com: Books


10-30-2012 09:57 AM
sd1953
Re: Need Some Advice on (6) Mo. Provisioning

Six months and no stops????
Stopping at a marina for water and fuel is too easy. If you are not stopping you need a watermaker. If you are stopping get a water filter.
What are going to do about laundry?
If you are looking for foodstuff that will keep for six months, look at survivalist sites on the web (emergency essentials is one) for dehydrated and freeze dried foods. Repackaging from #10 cans to something you can stow in your boat will be necessary. A vacuum meal sealer can make that possible.
As the post above says, fishing will be okay, reef fish carry ciguetera.
10-30-2012 09:51 AM
chucklesR
Re: Need Some Advice on (6) Mo. Provisioning

Avery,
for fishing, get your hands on The Cruisers Handbook of Fishing by Scott and Wendy Bannerot. Invaluable guide. I picked one up this summer.

Skip the 1 gallon jugs on deck thing - go with standard UV protected 5 gallon jugs. You can secure them better and they won't fall apart in the sun/high winds. Better if you can store a couple emergency jugs below decks too.

Figure you'll need a minimum of 2 gallons of water a day for drinking and minimal cooking.
If you go with rice and beans instead of canned foods you'll need more water to cook with (you can cook canned foods with the liquid in the can sometimes). Rice and bean bags store easy, but take more to cook, they do however go well with fish.
Stock some basic spices. Bland food sucks.
Rain water catchment systems are easy to rig (think tarp with a plastic through hole and hose leading to a jug/tank inlet).
If you do that do not stint on a water filter on the faucet you will pull drinking and cooking water from.
Water makers, even small ones can run thousands of dollars. Even a hand pumped one can run over a grand. There are emergency de-salinator kits available (check defenders.com) - great for when you need to have, store a couple away.

Assuming you have an alcohol stove, don't forget to stock up on fuel.

Personally, I think the purpose of making such a trip is to stop in and hang out in as many places as you can on the way, I'm more a destination guy than a 'going there' guy.
10-30-2012 09:50 AM
chucklesR
Re: Need Some Advice on (6) Mo. Provisioning

Avery,
for fishing, get your hands on The Cruisers Handbook of Fishing by Scott and Wendy Bannerot. Invaluable guide. I picked one up this summer.

Skip the 1 gallon jugs on deck thing - go with standard UV protected 5 gallon jugs. You can secure them better and they won't fall apart in the sun/high winds. Better if you can store a couple emergency jugs below decks too.

Figure you'll need a minimum of 2 gallons of water a day for drinking and minimal cooking.
If you go with rice and beans instead of canned foods you'll need more water to cook with (you can cook canned foods with the liquid in the can sometimes). Rice and bean bags store easy, but take more to cook, they do however go well with fish.
Stock some basic spices. Bland food sucks.
Rain water catchment systems are easy to rig (think tarp with a plastic through hole and hose leading to a jug/tank inlet).
If you do that do not stint on a water filter on the faucet you will pull drinking and cooking water from.
Water makers, even small ones can run thousands of dollars. Even a hand pumped one can run over a grand. There are emergency de-salinator kits available (check defenders.com) - great for when you need to have, store a couple away.

Assuming you have an alcohol stove, don't forget to stock up on fuel.

Personally, I think the purpose of making such a trip is to stop in and hang out in as many places as you can on the way, I'm more a destination guy than a 'going there' guy.
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