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11-04-2012 03:04 PM
Another Fish In the Sea
Re: Questions of living and travelling under sail..

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Originally Posted by CaptainForce View Post
I would not recommend a reliance on being able to make a living plying your skills in foreign countries. Many laws restrict working while cruising through.
How do you think I ended up stuck in Norway? :P
11-04-2012 02:13 PM
Another Fish In the Sea
Re: Questions of living and travelling under sail..

Wow! That sounds awesome to live on the boat for so long! I know it's not for everybody, but better than my present situation. And thanks for the advice... gonna save all the pointers and bring them with me when I'm ready to make the buy... have been reading some of the chats here too, and see that people often get stuck with a money pit. I feel lucky that I'm also handy with mechanical stuff as well as with a saw and hammer... and have access to people who can fabricate just about anything... So I'm sure it'll go alright, as long as it stays afloat and keeps the rain off my head! At least when I'm inside.
11-04-2012 08:27 AM
CaptainForce
Re: Questions of living and travelling under sail..

'nother fish, My wife and I lived aboard a 1973 Morgan OI 33 from 1973 until 1985 incliding the time from our children's birth until they were seven and nine. We liked this boat so much, when our children needed more space, we traded it for a 1973 Morgan OI 41. The boat sails adequately, but it is certainly not a "performance" sailboat. Our best day was 124 miles from the Bahamas to Florida, but part of that was with a favorable Gulfstream current.
There are a few specific concerns to look for when surveying a Morgan OI:
1- Look for excessive corosion where the base of the aluminum mast is seated on the steel mast step. This has often been resolved in an older boat by changing or alytering the step (base plate).
2- Inspect the rudder where there may be a hairline crack between the port and starboard laminated halves. Water intrusion here can cause the rudder to eventually fail and proactive repair is advised including a fiberglass tabbing along the seam.
3- Look under the stemhead fitting by crawling to the forward of the V-berth and removing the access cover to the anchor locker. Look for corosion of the back-up aluminum plate or, worse, any separation of the hull deck seam here.
4- The older Morgan OI's had the hull deck seam under a black rubber rail and this location made it subject to damage. If the boat has evidence of damage at this rail or excessive water damage below from rail leaks, it might be wise to walk away.
5- You may find some soft spots on the deck due to water intrusion into the balsa core. Some spots may be acceptable, but they are a labor intensive repair. These soft spots are more of a cosmetic than a structural problem with this design.
These are some specific things to look for with this boat. All the other concerns with rigging, sails, equipment, engine, etc still are as important.
I would not recommend a reliance on being able to make a living plying your skills in foreign countries. Many laws restrict working while cruising through.
11-04-2012 07:03 AM
Another Fish In the Sea
Re: Questions of living and travelling under sail..

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Originally Posted by mdi View Post
Carl's Sailing Calculator is a free website that allows you to view data on many sailboats as well as compare their predictive sailing characteristics or enter data on any monohull sailboat and run the calculations.

I am from Louisiana myself and did not grow up in a sailing or boating experience other than the typical 15' fishing boat in Lake Pontchartrain and such. I was a military aviator, flying a wing or flying a sail, the experience is the same to me both wonderful. I have owned Harley's, Triumph's and my current ride is BMW. I can tell you easily to sell the bike get the boat, Boats can take you where bikes cannot, more than physical locations, and their are always bikes when you get to your various destinations to rent or purchase if want.

Suggestions above about crewing on various boats is a great idea though it still can be difficult to get the crewing experience for someone unfamiliar with the sailing scene. God knows "Cut Off" is near enough water, find all the marinas within a 4 hour drive, should be a slew between Madisonville, the North Shore and New Orleans; start hanging out at the one's with sailboats. Take some boating classes through Coast Guard or U.S. Power Squadron. One thing should lead to another.

Good Luck!
Thanks for the info!
11-04-2012 06:49 AM
mdi
Re: Questions of living and travelling under sail..

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Originally Posted by Another Fish In the Sea View Post
I'll start with the sailing part of it... for those with experience with the 33 O/I how is that boat for a beginner? Would you sail around the world in that boat (in a year or two... not talking about leaving next week...:P) Or what would you suggest?

Thanks for taking the time.... Q
Carl's Sailing Calculator is a free website that allows you to view data on many sailboats as well as compare their predictive sailing characteristics or enter data on any monohull sailboat and run the calculations.

I am from Louisiana myself and did not grow up in a sailing or boating experience other than the typical 15' fishing boat in Lake Pontchartrain and such. I was a military aviator, flying a wing or flying a sail, the experience is the same to me both wonderful. I have owned Harley's, Triumph's and my current ride is BMW. I can tell you easily to sell the bike get the boat, Boats can take you where bikes cannot, more than physical locations, and their are always bikes when you get to your various destinations to rent or purchase if want.

Suggestions above about crewing on various boats is a great idea though it still can be difficult to get the crewing experience for someone unfamiliar with the sailing scene. God knows "Cut Off" is near enough water, find all the marinas within a 4 hour drive, should be a slew between Madisonville, the North Shore and New Orleans; start hanging out at the one's with sailboats. Take some boating classes through Coast Guard or U.S. Power Squadron. One thing should lead to another.

Good Luck!
11-03-2012 06:05 PM
misfits
Re: Questions of living and travelling under sail..

I believe that Gary's boat (travlin easy) is a 33 morgan. He's on his why down south & my understanding is his internet access is limited but he could be a good source for some info.
11-03-2012 04:21 PM
Another Fish In the Sea
Re: Questions of living and travelling under sail..

Thanks! That was one of the tings I was wondering! I guess it also will depend on "where" you live as well... For example, where I live in Norway food supplies for long trips will be darned expensive and the selection is rather limited, a shopping trip to Sweden on the other hand, would be most beneficial... would be cheaper living on the boat here compared to paying rent for an apartment, but if you're here in the winter then you'd probably have to have the boat on land, and well heated... But the idea is to organize a tattoo trip, so there will have to be a lot of organizing, networking, sorting, and planning. But first I need a boat. The trip itself may still be two years down the road.
11-03-2012 03:52 PM
Frogwatch
Re: Questions of living and travelling under sail..

33 OI is a good boat. In fact, that is what I'd get next if I wasn't wanting to build a bigger boat.
33 is small enough to sail by yourself and not big enough to cost a fortune (or at least a bigger fortune) in upkeep.
With her 3'10 draft, you can take her in shallow water but she can do blue water sailing too.

Do not expect to save any money living on a boat. It'll cost more'n living ashore.
11-03-2012 03:34 PM
Another Fish In the Sea
Re: Questions of living and travelling under sail..

Thanks! I've been looking at those options as well, but you have to start somewhere and that's why I ended up right here!
11-03-2012 03:08 PM
benjiwoodboat
Re: Questions of living and travelling under sail..

Best thing to do is go sailing with other people and learn to sail on other peoples boats. Join Sail OPO or look at the Rallys coming up that head to Caribe (ex. ARC Caribe 1500 leaves tomorrow) and back in the spring...plenty of people will be looking for crew. As you sail on more and more different boats you'll learn alot about what are good and bad qualities of boats... and what you like. I highly recommend this approach... and it wont cost you anything. Owners should pay your travel and expenses.
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