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11-22-2012 01:01 AM
chef2sail
Re: Adler Barbour Cold Machine troubleshooting

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This would not be a good time to start the discussion on inertia, pendulum, or wave action reciprocating compressors? DeniseO30
Sounda like discussion over my head.
11-20-2012 10:01 PM
SchockT
Re: Adler Barbour Cold Machine troubleshooting

Might have a hard time fitting that down in the lazarette!
11-20-2012 09:32 PM
deniseO30
Re: Adler Barbour Cold Machine troubleshooting

Oh! I really love the birdsye maple swing arm LOL
11-20-2012 09:31 PM
deniseO30
Re: Adler Barbour Cold Machine troubleshooting

This would not be a good time to start the discussion on inertia, pendulum, or wave action reciprocating compressors? lmao
11-20-2012 12:07 AM
SchockT
Re: Adler Barbour Cold Machine troubleshooting

Of course I would expect a professional who is equipped with the appropriate equipment to properly evacuate a system. That is why they are paid the big bucks! My point is that just because a system has a leak does not mean that whole system needs to be ripped out and thrown in the garbage! In many cases a few hours of technician's time can have the system back up and running reliably. There are some DIY owners out there that also have the ability to effect repairs given adequate advice and access to a couple of specialty tools. Unfortunately many systems don't even have service ports to allow access to the system, making it even harder for DIY repairs.

It is true that many refrigeration technician's rates are high enough that it may not be worth while for the owner or the technician. Not many boat owners would want to pay the $120/hr my company charges, but there are guys out there that work for much less.

There are also some owners out there that want to fully understand all the systems on their boat so they can be as self-sufficient as possible. If you are cruising in remote areas and your refrigeration goes down, it would definitely be good to know what needs to be done and be able to do it. It helps to know what can and cannot be done. It is likely that buying a new kit system from your local Westmarine just isn't an option.
11-19-2012 10:53 AM
deniseO30
Re: Adler Barbour Cold Machine troubleshooting

OP has only made 3 posts to this thread; very little of what's being tossed around here really is going to help until he updates his progress. I did offer him an evaporator if he wants it.

I'm certainly not going to enter another qualification contest. (wizzing contest) Why I hold back on advice.

134 and mineral oil don't mix but the system will still work. how long and how well to be determined if and when it fails. (But it's already an old system, so why not?) There is a whole list of results but very little visual proof of what happens.

No one would pay me to put 134 into a system that has not been flushed and changed over. Even though it's done allot by DIYers. I would not do it either.. it's not worth the trouble. If someone asks me if it can be done I say "do what you want, you will anyway"

Cost to convert small vs new by a professional often makes sense to go new with labor rates being so high.

Even Danfoss says; replace the compressor.

12volt boat systems are small but very expensive compared to traditional 120-230 volt systems. Old vs new makes allot of sense for those that are not DIY types.
11-19-2012 02:02 AM
SchockT
Re: Adler Barbour Cold Machine troubleshooting

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Originally Posted by deniseO30 View Post
Because I'm qualified.. I choose to not speak!

still plays with ice cubes and fans
How odd that you choose that position. Even odder still that you choose to post your decision not to have an opinion! Almost like some kind of passive-aggressive way of disagreeing...
11-18-2012 09:53 PM
deniseO30
Re: Adler Barbour Cold Machine troubleshooting

Because I'm qualified.. I choose to not speak!

still plays with ice cubes and fans
11-18-2012 08:04 PM
SchockT
Re: Adler Barbour Cold Machine troubleshooting

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Originally Posted by deniseO30 View Post
As a professional in HVAC I'm staying out of this one!
I too am an industry professional. In my 19 years in the industry I have worked on everything from custom made aquarium chillers to 100 ton blast freezers and refrigerated warehouses. At one point in my career I was installing custom refrigeration systems for the local Hunter dealer, as well as maintaining and installing refrigeration systems for a couple of charter companies. I have experience with dual voltage systems as well as engine drive systems. I have made custom heat exchangers and holding plates, and even made my own condensers. I have repaired dozens of systems, and converted plenty of them from 12 to 134a.

These days I mainly work on commercial and industrial refrigeration and HVAC systems, but I still do the occasional boat system for fellow club members.

So, I think I am qualified to speak on the subject....
11-18-2012 12:05 PM
msmith10
Re: Adler Barbour Cold Machine troubleshooting

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Originally Posted by deniseO30 View Post
As a professional in HVAC I'm staying out of this one!
That's OK! We're used to getting opinions only from those with no expertise on the subject being discussed

(No reflection on previous posters intended-- it was just too hot a line to pass up)
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