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11-20-2012 09:07 AM
jameswilson29
Re: Windy day on the Chesapeake

The YouTube wind scale:

Whitecaps = Gale conditions, lives at peril, pure heroics necessary to arrive safely.

Waves above 3 ft. = Near hurricane, survival conditions, few have the skill and ability to make it.

Boat heels more than 10 degrees = Full hurricane.
11-20-2012 09:00 AM
E38
Re: Windy day on the Chesapeake

We were also out on Sunday. However, we opted for a sail up the Severn instead of heading out on the Bay. With the NE wind, it was a starboard close reach (mostly) up to the far side of Round Bay, tack, and then a port broad reach (mostly) back to Annapolis. This is the best time of year to make that trip with so few power boats out...also, still a little color along the shore.

We were also warmed by hot chocolate with peppermint schnapps (topped with whipped cream) on our sail. Just the thing for a leisurely late fall sail.

John
11-20-2012 08:23 AM
bloodhunter
Re: Windy day on the Chesapeake

Yeah, was a beautiful weekend on the Bay, not too cold. Judging from the white caps just outside the channel on the way to Solomon's Island true wind didn't get much above 15-18 kts with an occqasional gust in the 20s. Apparent wind -- we were registering 25 kts making 9-10 kts on a beam reach. The chop was really nasty running about 4 ft on Sunday. I know 4 ft chop doesn't sound like much but in the bay the fetch is really short and you really get thrown around.
BTW. The Maryland Rockfish tournament was this past weekend and just watching those guys rocking and rolling in the chop trolling at 3 kts almost made me seasick. That's real dedication. Wouldn't have minded some fresh Rock to take homw -- nothing better
11-19-2012 03:41 PM
saildork
Re: Windy day on the Chesapeake

I guess I misread your comments, Dave. Sorry about that. I hadn't considered the vast differences there can be in wind and wx from one part of the Bay to another, especially from the Bay's mouth vs. 100 miles north. The good news is that we are where we can still sail in November. Woohoo!!
11-19-2012 03:06 PM
chef2sail
Re: Windy day on the Chesapeake

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I don't doubt Cruiser's account. I went out to VA Beach yesterday, and it was blowin' stink. Heavy surf, flying foam everywhere, sand stinging my eyes, whitecaps everywhere-Saildork
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Not doubting the cruisers speed just reporting the condition where I was on the Chesapeake at the Patapsco River was 12-15 mostly. It would make sense that at the shore it was blustery as there was a coastal storm fairly far out to sea, but which have affected your winds, I am 55 miles inland of the ocean.

Jim.

Chila and Hot Chocolate/ Schnapps were not eated together. We ate the Chili on the way acrooss the Bay...and an hour later had the hot chocolate and peppermint schnapps for dessert. I do have a cast iron stomach....lol
11-19-2012 12:34 PM
saildork
Re: Windy day on the Chesapeake

I don't doubt Cruiser's account. I went out to VA Beach yesterday, and it was blowin' stink. Heavy surf, flying foam everywhere, sand stinging my eyes, whitecaps everywhere. Watching the local wx news last night, they reported 20+ mph all day with gusts over 30 (showed a graph with wind rising during the day). Since wind over land is usually slower than wind over the water due to friction, I'm sure 20 mph over land will easily translate into 20+ knots over water.

A week ago, we sailed out of Little Creek out through the entrance to the bay and back. Our instruments recorded a pretty consistent 15 - 18 knots true the whole time. I'm here to tell you the wind that day was nothing like it was yesterday! FWIW
11-19-2012 12:00 PM
JimMcGee
Re: Windy day on the Chesapeake

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Originally Posted by chef2sail View Post
We were out sailing today and had a beautiful sail from Rock Creek over the Swan Creek and ack across the Bay. We never saw higher than 17 on our wind instrument. We stayed behind the dodger eating chili and drinking hot chocolate with peppermint schnapps. We thought it was a great bonus dy of sailing.

Dave
Dave,
I'm jealous of anybody who's getting out sailing now. We spent the weekend putting the cover on and putting things away - sigh.

But I have to ask -- chili and peppermint schnapps????

Is that like some kind of combo that chefs eat on a dare or something? See who's first feeding the fish? LOL

Jim
11-19-2012 07:56 AM
jameswilson29
Re: Windy day on the Chesapeake

The most useful gauge is the Beaufort sea state descriptions. Although waves look flatter on video, the appearance of white caps, flying spray, etc., still shows up.

On many of these 30 knot videos, you see scattered whitecaps, indicating maybe Force 4 - wind in the mid to upper teens.

When wind is Force 7, in the low 30s, you should see "Seas heap up, white foam starts to blow in streaks along direction of wind, spindrift forms"

I suspect most of the 30 knot YouTube sailors would be safely home (as they should be), or heading home, after soiling their pants, in such conditions.

It is common to see 3 - 4 foot chop in the lower Chesapeake Bay, where there is much greater fetch over which waves can form:
11-19-2012 07:48 AM
aa3jy
Re: Windy day on the Chesapeake

The day it DOESN'T blow 20 knots or more in the Windward Islands is a day hell has frozen over...
11-19-2012 07:40 AM
chucklesR
Re: Windy day on the Chesapeake

Quote:
Originally Posted by jameswilson29 View Post
It's always blowing 30 knots (or more) in every YouTube video...
Here's a roaring day of only 29 knots



Now wait now - I didn't say that was speed, just 29 knots in the video, can you find them all?
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