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12-07-2012 06:41 PM
lillia28
Re: Removable bung in keel?

Do it! It provides great peace of mind. I got myself in a tizzy about what type of plug to use, plastic or bronze and decided to epoxy the hole each spring. Five minutes to drill in the fall, 10 minutes to fill in the spring, no worries, no leaks, no lost plugs. Piece of cake.
Lou
11-27-2012 05:04 PM
downeast450
Re: Removable bung in keel?

Quote:
Originally Posted by mikehoyt View Post
Many boats at our marina have garbord drains.

Our boats are hauled during the winter and the marina is not patrolled regularly. Typically snow can fill the cockpit and than rain/freezing rain can put a hard layer over this snow and also cover cockpit drains. A mid winter rain storm will then fill cockpit to level of hatchboard and flow into boat.

This does not happen often but there are many ways in which water can find its way into an unattended boat over winter and easily rise to or over floorboard level. One boat in our marina had replaced the cabin sole only to have this happen over the following winter. After that a lot of boats installed garbord drains.

Another option is to remove the speed transducer to leave this as a drain. It is much higher than the bilge though and the possibility of water filling the bilge and freezing would still exist - though below the floorboard level.

Garbord drains are not at all difficult to install and unless you have a cored hull I do not see this as a major problem. I do however see water sitting in a boat on the hard as a major problem.

Mike
J27 #150
I installed one and am glad to have it here in Maine.





It isn't obvious in this picture but I added 1/2" of biaxial S-glass with vinylester resin to the inside of the keel stub to prepare for the plug's installation.

Down
10-24-2012 05:00 PM
johno3
Re: Removable bung in keel?

hi i own a orkney longliner fishing boat all orkney boats are fitted with keel bungs
12-06-2008 11:23 PM
mgmhead I'm glad to say that my Sabre 34 MkI has a drain plug in the bilge and it is a relief knowing when stored on the hard with the batteries disconnected there is no fear of damage from standing water.

Also glad to say my cockpit DOES NOT drain into the bilge-ever!
12-03-2008 08:45 AM
sailingdog A South Coast 23 isn't really a modern design, being about 40 years old.
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Originally Posted by Hartley18 View Post
Yes, well that doesn't make any sense. There is absolutely no reason why the cockpit of any modern boat should drain into the bilge.

If it were my boat, that would be the first thing on the list to fix!

Cameron
12-03-2008 03:45 AM
Bene505
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheWastedYears View Post
I dunno why, but I have an almost irrational fear of holes in the hull. But as I read more about the South Coast 23, it makes perfect sense. Apparently, this is one of those designs where the cockpit drains into the bilge.
Note really about the drain plug, but interesting nonetheless... My Victory 21 had the same arrangement, where the cockpit drained into the bilge. It was near impossible to keep the bilge from filling up with water in the summer. I finally put a large tarp over the boom (a cheap one). After that, it was bone dry.
12-03-2008 02:00 AM
sailonct
Drain hole in keel

I recently bought a Morgan 35'. I didn't realize 'til the yard manager pointed out to me that I have a drain in the keel/bilge. He said they are somewhat rare, that only 6 or 8 sailboats in the yard have them. It's a nice feature. The plug itself is a nice bronze threaded plug that is removed with a 1/2" ratchet (no socket required). It's nice to know that any water that gets down there will run out, even after I remove the batteries disabling the bilge pump.

Take care.

Dewayne
09-30-2008 11:14 AM
mikehoyt Many boats at our marina have garbord drains. A local boatbuilder usually installs them as well.

Our boats are hauled during the winter and the marina is not patrolled regularly. Typically snow can fill the cockpit and than rain/freezing rain can put a hard layer over this snow and also cover cockpit drains. A mid winter rain storm will then fill cockpit to level of hatchboard and flow into boat.

This does not happen often but there are many ways in which water can find its way into an unattended boat over winter and easily rise to or over floorboard level. One boat in our marina had replaced the cabin sole only to have this happen over the following winter. After that a lot of boats installed garbord drains.

Another option is to remove the speed transducer to leave this as a drain. It is much higher than the bilge though and the possibility of water filling the bilge and freezing would still exist - though below the floorboard level.

Garbord drains are not at all difficult to install and unless you have a cored hull I do not see this as a major problem. I do however see water sitting in a boat on the hard as a major problem.

Mike
J27 #150
09-29-2008 08:06 PM
Classic30
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheWastedYears View Post
I dunno why, but I have an almost irrational fear of holes in the hull. But as I read more about the South Coast 23, it makes perfect sense. Apparently, this is one of those designs where the cockpit drains into the bilge.
Yes, well that doesn't make any sense. There is absolutely no reason why the cockpit of any modern boat should drain into the bilge.

If it were my boat, that would be the first thing on the list to fix!

Cameron
09-29-2008 03:08 PM
TheWastedYears I dunno why, but I have an almost irrational fear of holes in the hull. But as I read more about the South Coast 23, it makes perfect sense. Apparently, this is one of those designs where the cockpit drains into the bilge.
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