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12-02-2012 09:37 PM
Stumble
Re: Worn holes for the Winch Pawls

Gary,

The problem with having custom paws made is that in a few years when you need to replace them you have to go back to a custom machine shop to have them made. Better by far to rebuild the holder than to redesign a part to only use specialized parts.
12-02-2012 08:41 PM
GaryHLucas
Re: Worn holes for the Winch Pawls

Another possibilty. Have a local machine shop open the holes slightly by simply plunging in a slightly larger end mill. Then find a wire EDM shop (or eMachine.com) to have a pair of slightly oversized pawls made. They can cut hardened stainless to very precise dimensions using that process.

Gary H. Lucas
12-02-2012 06:26 PM
tap
Re: Worn holes for the Winch Pawls

1985 is newer than 1982, when Lewmar came out with new winches. The OP winches look like pre 1982. But maybe there is a old winch drum on a shelf for 30 years no one has thought to look for.

It's quite possible that a winch drum, if one could be located, won't fit. One these old winches they didn't always make the parts interchangeable. Stuff like pawls, springs, bearings, circlips, etc. would all be the same. But the final machining of the castings would be done custom for each winch to make everything fit correctly. They didn't have the accuracy of modern CNC mills back then. Those holes for the pawls were probably done by "hand" after the spindle and drum were already mated.
12-02-2012 04:31 PM
Seaduction
Re: Worn holes for the Winch Pawls

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Originally Posted by tap View Post
Not much chance finding parts for these winches. P2 doesn't have winch drums for early lewmar winches, made from 1982 to the early 90s. These look like earlier lewmar winches made in the 70s. P2 doesn't even carry parts for these.

Here a thread on SA about winch repair. Some pictures of redrilled pawl holes.
Uhh... I bought parts for my 1985 (27years old) Lewmars from P2 just this past summer. OP could at least verify their lack of parts with a simple phone call. I'm only suggesting an easy fix. If they are actually devoid of such pieces for the winch in question, then nothing lost.
12-02-2012 03:30 PM
tap
Re: Worn holes for the Winch Pawls

Not much chance finding parts for these winches. P2 doesn't have winch drums for early lewmar winches, made from 1982 to the early 90s. These look like earlier lewmar winches made in the 70s. P2 doesn't even carry parts for these.

Here a thread on SA about winch repair. Some pictures of redrilled pawl holes.
12-02-2012 09:44 AM
Minnewaska
Re: Worn holes for the Winch Pawls

I would only weld and drill as an absolute last resort and only by a real professional machinist. This is stuff that can hurt you.
12-02-2012 09:22 AM
Seaduction
Re: Worn holes for the Winch Pawls

Ordering replacement parts is soooo simple. (I suppose they may be sold out however)
P2 Marine, at least have a look.
12-01-2012 11:36 PM
tap
Re: Worn holes for the Winch Pawls

I've seen online where someone had drilled new holes for the pawls after theirs wore out like yours have. But that winch had didn't have the two raised areas in the drum where the pawls went. It was solid all the way around so there was a place to drill two new holes. It doesn't look like you have space for a new hole.

Maybe you could get a some rod or tube and make a new holder for the pawl, then drill out the old holes in the drum to fit the outer diameter of the tube. Sort of like a helicoil insert for a stripped out screw hole.
11-28-2012 09:54 PM
Seaduction
Re: Worn holes for the Winch Pawls

Apologies. I thought you were referring to the lewmar 40. Minnewaska linked you to the correct page on P2 marine website for the Lewmar 8. Ordering info is shown on the page and I was happy with my service from P.
11-28-2012 09:45 PM
Seaduction
Re: Worn holes for the Winch Pawls

I have a pair of Lewmar 40 two speeds which I clean and lube every 5 years or so; they are from the mid-1980's. This summer I dropped a part overboard whilst cleaning and lubing on the boat.. I ordered the exact replacement part from P2 marine:
Lewmar Winch Parts

Check the diagram on their website and make sure yours are put together properly. The palls should not fall out, but then again....
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