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12-16-2012 01:09 AM
Re: Hunter 28.5 versus Allmand 31

I had a chance to visit the Allmand with the owner. I saw corrosion on the chain plates, and a possibly damaged bulkhead where one of the chain plates attached, plus other problems, some of which were noted above. I researched repair costs for some of the bigger stuff I saw, subtracted the costs from the NADA value, and made an offer that was about 7% above that result. The owner was less than pleased with the offer, so I walked away. It's a shame, because it would have been a nice boat for us. In the meantime, the Hunter has sold. So, now I am back at square 1. There is a lot of crap out there right now, and stuff that's way outside my budget. I haven't really seen anything that's "close" that meets my needs/requirements. So, I am thinking of sitting out this season, and maybe adding my expected slip fees to the "pot" so I will have more to play with next fall.

Thank you all very much for the help and support!
12-06-2012 04:15 PM
Re: Hunter 28.5 versus Allmand 31

Thanks Gary!
12-06-2012 04:12 PM
Re: Hunter 28.5 versus Allmand 31

I have an Allmand 31 love the boat, She has her issues as most older boats but is generally solidly constructed, do check for rudder post shelf rot. deck core around mast and hatches and ports. and the headliner you cant miss.
As most will say a boat is a series of compromises for us we needed a large cabin with all the comforts of home for 2 adults and 3 kids 15, 8, and 6, I think we spent 45 nights on the boat in this year its like a beach house with sails. The room is great. The lower the draft the better for our area ( south shore of long island NY) the 31 is 3' -10" which takes priority over pointing ability, we did not need a racer ether ( got a Thistle for that) I have heard of former Allmand owners that sold there boats for bigger or faster or newer that later regretted getting rid of the boat. BTW the Allmand group site is!forum/Allmand.
12-04-2012 09:25 PM
Re: Hunter 28.5 versus Allmand 31

Check out this link Hunter 28.5 Lots of info on the 28.5. The 28.5 was one of the better hull shapes produced by Hunter. The 2GMF20 Yanmar engines in these boats is bullet proof and has reasonably priced replacement parts.

Negatives but not show stoppers are the iron keel and some of yhe build quality. Very nice boat for coastal cruising, club racing. I have raced against 28.5s 28.5s for 15 years and they move well in light air.

There used to be an Allmand 31 where I docked. Large boat for a 31. Owner had a lot maintenance issues. He complained that the boat did't sail all that well but it was nice at the dock. The universal diesel kept giving him fits.

In the same price range you might look at the C&C 29-2, A couple of steps above in quality from either of these boats. Priced in the same range. One of the members of this board just put his up for sale last week in the Chesapeake. Nice boat. Sailboat 1984 C&C 29 Mark II
12-04-2012 07:24 AM
Re: Hunter 28.5 versus Allmand 31

Goes to show that not only a Sailnet moderator has a negative opinion but is reaffirmed that there is no listing of an Allmand in the 'Boat Builders' subforum of Sailnet...
12-04-2012 12:20 AM
Re: Hunter 28.5 versus Allmand 31

For posterity purposes, thre's a good review of the Allmand at Classic Plastic: Allmand 31 | Cruising World
12-03-2012 10:29 AM
Re: Hunter 28.5 versus Allmand 31

Thanks for the reminder. The marina said no, no damage from Sandy.
12-03-2012 09:47 AM
Re: Hunter 28.5 versus Allmand 31

She didnt get damaged in Sandy right?
12-03-2012 09:44 AM
Re: Hunter 28.5 versus Allmand 31

Thanks. I've asked the listing marina if I could speak with the owners. I'd like to know what issues they know of before I she'll out the cash for an inspection/survey. I saw something that suggested they tried to sell her before, about 2 years ago. I know she has been available since at least May, and I don't think she splashed at all this past season.
12-03-2012 02:22 AM
Re: Hunter 28.5 versus Allmand 31


I kept an Islander 28 on Barnegat for 6 years . You get good onshore afternoon winds there. Stayed in Dillons Creek Marina. The hunter bathroom is ridiculously small if you are looking for comfort. Also the lack of V berth seperate from setees wil make it feel cramped. Also you mention buying a boat to take in the ocean, hunter vs Allmamd = Allmand all the way. Also Barnegat Inlet in the afternoon, are you serious trying to come in a an 18 hp 2 cylinder. Rethink that. That inlet s one of the most dangerous with breaking waves across it as well as a 4 knott current.

Understand I come in the inlet unless poor conditions on my trip to and from the Chesapeake every year o the LI Sound. I ave done Barnegat over 100 time. You don't want o. Be underpowered through it. It's a very dangerous inlet.

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