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12-08-2012 01:44 PM
bljones
Re: Any tips on parting out a sailboat?

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Originally Posted by Minnewaska View Post
I've never done it, so I will defer to those that have.

However, if I followed correctly, this was a 25 ft boat? A 35 foot boat would be enormously bigger and more difficult. The keel alone would grow from 1200 to 5000 pounds. I suspect that same ratio would apply to the rest.
It's bigger but it's not much more complicated, and a 35 foot boat will fit in a 20 yard dumpster. yeah, disposal costs are higher, but, as you have just pointed out, the salvage value increases exponentially.
12-08-2012 01:36 PM
Southron Spirit
Re: Any tips on parting out a sailboat?

if someone had a back hoe they could probally bust it up pretty fast
12-08-2012 12:10 PM
Minnewaska
Re: Any tips on parting out a sailboat?

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Originally Posted by svHyLyte View Post
......ship breaking isn't a difficult process, just nasty. Wear suits, gloves and VOC rated breathers and have at it.....
Another good point. I would bet neighbors and environmental zelots would go crazy with all the fiberglass dust, etc, flying around.
12-08-2012 12:06 PM
svHyLyte
Re: Any tips on parting out a sailboat?

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Originally Posted by Hudsonian View Post
Sandy damage has caused several boats at our club to be declared "constructive total losses". Would it be worthwhile for the owners to part the boats themselves? Some have good masts, booms, standing rigging, winches, spinnaker poles, pulpits, pushpits, sails, diesels, and transmissions in addition to the ballast. If the insurance company offers a 35' boat at $3K, wouldn't those parts be worth far more. Clearly, there's an established market for the lead. Is there an effective way to market the rest? It seems wasteful to landfill it.
I had the misfortune of having to part out a Thunderbird 26 in the early 1970's. It needed repairs far beyond my skills that I could not then afford to have done and I could find neither a buyer nor even anyone that would accept the boat as a donation. And, we had to clear the slip. We had the boat hauled out at a local DIY yard after pulling the mast and laid on her side in a back corner where a modest dumpster was brought in. I eventually cleared about $3,000 for the bits and pieces after 5 daze work in the cold; rain, getting $1,200 for the spars and rigging alone, $500 for the sails, $250 for the rudder/tiller, a good bit for the cast iron keel, $100 each for the primary winches and winch pads etc., etc., etc. (and all of this via word of mouth, notices placed on YC Bulletin boards, and a $15.00 ad in a local newspaper). The most difficult part was actually cutting up the hull with a chain-saw, which burned up 4 chain/blades. I threw the rubbish in the trash but I was later berated by a local shipyard owner that told me I should have burned the bits and pieces and then combed the ashes for the bronze and copper fastenings as they did when they "broke up" a ship/barge (who knew!?!)

I suggest you can accomplish the same much more easily with Craig's list,e-bay and the like, especially if you get a couple of boats together and team up. The "team" could rent a mini-storage locker or two and partition those for each ship's gear and work together on each boat in turn. Once the rigs are pulled and the keels dropped and prop'd, ship breaking isn't a difficult process, just nasty. Wear suits, gloves and VOC rated breathers and have at it.

FWIW...
12-08-2012 11:58 AM
Minnewaska
Re: Any tips on parting out a sailboat?

In Mexico?
12-08-2012 10:47 AM
sww914
Re: Any tips on parting out a sailboat?

I should have said that lead is ALMOST a buck a pound. I sold 500# for $.85. I had to shop around to get that price, the first guy quoted me $.20.
12-08-2012 09:38 AM
Minnewaska
Re: Any tips on parting out a sailboat?

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Originally Posted by bljones View Post
Sure you can. it's done everyday. I cut donorboat into pieces small enough to get the entire boat onto a 5 x8' trailer......
I've never done it, so I will defer to those that have.

However, if I followed correctly, this was a 25 ft boat? A 35 foot boat would be enormously bigger and more difficult. The keel alone would grow from 1200 to 5000 pounds. I suspect that same ratio would apply to the rest.
12-08-2012 08:21 AM
bljones
Re: Any tips on parting out a sailboat?

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Originally Posted by Minnewaska View Post
I will bet you can't easily cut a 35ft boat in small enough pieces to fit in a 40 yard roll off dumpster, which is a bit over 20ft long.
Sure you can. it's done everyday. I cut donorboat into pieces small enough to get the entire boat onto a 5 x8' trailer.
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BTW, our local scrapyard buys clean sailboat keels for $.55/lb. Mars Keels will pay $.65-$.75/lb, but you have to bring it to them. not real practical for one keel more than 50 miles away, but if you've got a load worth loading on a flatbed it starts to pay off.

Why don't boatyards cut up and dispose of old boats? Likely a bunch of reasons- 1. They aren't in the salvage business. 2. Title and ownership issues. 3. Somebody might buy the whole boat someday- then you've got more work clming in and another slip rented. 4. It's nasty, dirty, itchy, hard, occasionally dangerous work with very sharp tools. If you have teenagers, you know a)how hard it is to get them to do anything nasty, dirty, itchy or hard and b) power tool safety is not top of mind. It would be a supervisory and liability nightmare.
12-08-2012 07:55 AM
jameswilson29
Re: Any tips on parting out a sailboat?

Boats are being cut up by crews, you can see the parts in the "Sailing Hardware" section of eBay Motors - many winches, pulpits, pushpits, rudders, keels, sails, and other spare parts at bargain prices.
12-08-2012 07:23 AM
Minnewaska
Re: Any tips on parting out a sailboat?

I will bet you can't easily cut a 35ft boat in small enough pieces to fit in a 40 yard roll off dumpster, which is a bit over 20ft long.

Like I said, if the economics worked well, marinas would not be stocked with abandoned boats. They would hire some summer kids and at least clean the yard up.
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