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12-07-2012 06:31 PM
lillia28
Re: Main Halyards - Back to cockpit or keep at mast?

I second Rob Gallagher's (4th post) idea, do both.
My boat had a Dutchman on the main, halyard run aft and roller furler, making and dousing sail was a pleasure. Many jiffy reefing set ups are at the mast so having both would be very convenient.
Lou
12-07-2012 04:20 PM
wolfenzee
Re: Main Halyards - Back to cockpit or keep at mast?

I don't know if a spinnaker would work (for me or the boat). I have the hardware necessary, but a 40' luff and 13' J meas (stem to mast) would make it an expensive experiment. A used asymmetrical spinnaker of the size my boat would take is close to $1000. I'm not racing and it would only gain a couple of knots in really light air. For a drifter I have a 180% (39'luff 23'foot) roller genny. I am concerned about space, in the boat and my bank account
12-07-2012 03:19 PM
smurphny
Re: Main Halyards - Back to cockpit or keep at mast?

While it sounds like a convenient thing to do and it sure would be nice to not have to make my way up, tethered, with winch handle in-hand while trying to keep the helm locked to keep pointed in the right direction, I can see some problems with lowering the sail or reefing from the cockpit. Single-handing, you can only be in one place at a time. I have everything available at the mast to raise and lower sails, reef, put the ties on the main if lowering completely, adjust the cunningham or downhaul, and hang the slack line. It just seems like a lot of extra lines and things to get fouled for doubtful real benefit and I feel like I'd be going up there anyway.
12-07-2012 02:46 PM
blutoyz
Re: Main Halyards - Back to cockpit or keep at mast?

Unfortunately my better half will be much happier reading a book than even taking the helm for a minute...LOL
12-07-2012 02:39 PM
caberg
Re: Main Halyards - Back to cockpit or keep at mast?

Quote:
Originally Posted by sck5 View Post
Making my wife deal with the mainsail is not the route to a happy marriage so i am basically on my own as far as that goes.
Agreed. That's why she takes the wheel (while having the little guy help).

12-07-2012 02:17 PM
sck5
Re: Main Halyards - Back to cockpit or keep at mast?

I also have a strong track on my mast and the halyard led back to the cockpit. It is excellent for times when you want the main sail to drop immediately (e.g. a squall appears, or whatever). You can just let the halyard go and the sail flakes itself nicely on the boom.

Making my wife deal with the mainsail is not the route to a happy marriage so i am basically on my own as far as that goes.
12-07-2012 12:54 PM
blutoyz
Re: Main Halyards - Back to cockpit or keep at mast?

One of the first things that I plan on with the new(to me) boat will be running the main back and installing lazy jacks. The US27 main should be small enough to handle from the cockpit and the PO said that she sails great on jib alone in heavy wind so reefing from the cockpit shouldn't be necessary.

My biggest concern is to be able to easily single hand so that the "stress" on the admiral is kept to a minimum ...LOL
12-07-2012 12:16 PM
PCP
Re: Main Halyards - Back to cockpit or keep at mast?

To the original question: I guess it depends on the size of the boat and the crew number. If the boat is big enough (50ft up) it can be stable enough to someone to be there working with bad weather and if you have more than one able crew that is not a problem and can even have advantages (less friction).

For smaller boats, specially if they are solo sailed or sailed with the help of a wive that is not a good help (some are just better then the husband but that is not what I am talking about), going out of the cockpit in bad weather for reefing or lowering the main is a bad idea.
12-07-2012 12:09 PM
PCP
Re: Main Halyards - Back to cockpit or keep at mast?

Quote:
Originally Posted by bljones View Post
we have the halyards run to the cockpit, and one of the winter projects is to rework the reefing lines and run those back as well. IMO it is money and time well spent if you are not just primarily single-handing, but single-handing with pint-sized crew.
I really don't see a significant downside.

Sometimes it can get a little crazy, like on this catboat:






That's a pretty busy clutch farm to manage a single sail.
Hey, I did not know you had a boat Just kidding, it is a very nice sailboat. I like it a lot.

Regards

Paulo
12-07-2012 10:55 AM
bljones
Re: Main Halyards - Back to cockpit or keep at mast?

we have the halyards run to the cockpit, and one of the winter projects is to rework the reefing lines and run those back as well. IMO it is money and time well spent if you are not just primarily single-handing, but single-handing with pint-sized crew.
I really don't see a significant downside.

Sometimes it can get a little crazy, like on this catboat:






That's a pretty busy clutch farm to manage a single sail.
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