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12-22-2006 01:33 PM
cardiacpaul the carry cool units are decent, but they don't work well in the texas sun in august... nothing does.
12-22-2006 10:54 AM
hellosailor Nick, the larger boats with permanently installed AC down there use water-cooled units, but just playing salt water over a conventional AC coil would eat it up in short order.

Rigging awnings--even a simple tarp--across the boat will help tremendously. As will placing an ordinary 12" fan wherever the AC unit is blowing, to distribute the cold air in the boat.

This will give you a good excuse to meet your new neighbors, and ask what they are doing.
12-22-2006 10:34 AM
camaraderie Culinary...Oh MAN will you need one!!
Since the boat will be out of the water, that is the best time to get it done..before you drop her back in unless you can "T" off another through hull line and plumb into an "overboard" line. If you are reasonably handy...you can do the job yourself as the units are self contained and all that is really required is:
1. Wire in the unit.
2. Wire in the saltwater pump
3. run the hoses to the through hulls (with a strainer that is easily accessible on the seawater intake. )
I would guess that something in the 8-10K BTU range will be what you need. You have to remember that it is not only the air temperature in FL but also the humidity and intensity of the sun on your deck that makes it unbearable for many months of the year. You will be at a dock so can't count on hatches and breezes providing much ventilation.
I've had pretty good luck over the years with these guys if you're looking for a recommendation:
http://www.marineair.com/contained/index.html
12-22-2006 05:04 AM
Culinary411 Hellosailor,

Hell of a thought....I sent an e-mail to my corporate office today. Waiting on a response. I doubt it will work, but ingenius none the less.
As far as the AC unit goes...you guys really think I'll need it? It gets over 100 degrees here in Chicago and its pretty bearable on the lake. Also, what would be the cheapest route to go? I saw one that fits over the hatch but have serious doubts as to how much air that can push.




-Nick
12-21-2006 07:20 PM
hellosailor Nick-
"however, they will pay to relocate it but not to reimburst me if I sold at a loss. " Understandable. What if you approached someone and said "look, shipping a boat is a major project. I'd rather sell this one here and buy another one there and not worry about what can happen on truck and not have to take two days off, one to supervise the loading and another to supervise the unloading, both of weekdays with short notice. Would you just consider paying me an extra $3000 "relocation fee" so I can do that?"

They might see the logic, if there's no corporate policy tying hands.
12-21-2006 07:08 PM
sailingdog I'd second the A/C unit...you're gonna need it.. Finding a place to liveaboard is also going to be a problem, as is insurance... better make sure you have those straight before committing.
12-21-2006 04:11 PM
cardiacpaul get yourself an a/c unit.
12-21-2006 03:54 PM
Culinary411 I was thinking about selling and saving the money, however, they will pay to relocate it but not to reimburst me if I sold at a loss. This boat is not really worth much at all but I know its a good solid boat. All I want to get out of this is a place to live temporarily until I can save more money and get my hands on something bigger and more suited to my lifestyle. Finding a marina has been quite the challenge. Most have a waiting lists years long. There are a few around, however, finding one with a shower and possibly laundry is a challenge. I'm sure I'll find something. I always make it happen. No worries here....yet. lol





-Nick
12-21-2006 03:23 PM
hellosailor Nick, all considered you might want to toss around that option, asking the company for the moving money but selling the boat and buying something else down there. When you look at $3k for moving, plus the investment in repairs, as against the eventual sale price of the boat? And even if that deck repair is perfect, the next buyer may be put off by it. At a certain point, it pays to bail and put the money in the next boat.

North of Miami is still "the gold coast" down there. Expensive dockage, much advertised specifically as "No livbd". Reasonable living aboard down there went out with Travis McGee and the Busted Flush. These days are different. Of course, even apartments are expensive and traffic on the I-95 is totally modern. [read: deadly, stopped, or both].

You might want to ask your company for hazard pay.
12-21-2006 01:37 PM
Culinary411 LOL!,

I'm not worried about imperfections or A******S. As far as hot water and all the other wants...I can do without them for a year. I think the advantage of taking a boat from Chicago is that I know all the quirks of my boat already. I've on her for 6 months and quite comfortably at that. I have very basic needs. Sure, I'd love to have a shower on board and hot pressurized water but its only temporary. This way I'm in no hurry to jump on the first "deal" that cruises my way. I can settle in, cruise the Bahamas, find a good surveyor and broker that can help me get a boat that I can keep for the next 10 years or so.
Right now I'm kinda thinking I'll be looking for an old steel hull ocean going cruiser in the 30 to 40 foot range. I'd dry dock it and blast it,get a new coat underneath and then completely refit/update the inside. All I really need is a hull with a decent engine and a good mast. Everything else can be redone. I plan on doing all the interior myself. This is the plan for now....nothing set in stone. All that's set in stone right now is that I'm going to Florida and I want an ocean going passagemaker within the next year and a half.





-Nick
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