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Topic Review (Newest First)
12-14-2006 05:03 PM
pigslo Now why would I want to use perfectly good moonshine to cook with instead of drinking it?
pigslo
12-14-2006 03:41 PM
tigerregis Have a Force 10 Kero that had to be warmed up to run. That meant having two fuels on hand. The spirit/alcohol/kero thing was messy and a PIA. I found a butane single on sale and have used it for 5 years. The fuel has become very expensive due to hazmat regs, but it is reliable and very hot.
12-14-2006 12:43 PM
deckhanddave I've started calling up marine surplus shops and all they have are pulled origos, propane everything, and the occasional diesel giant. One went as far as trying to persuade me to go with the alcohol saying "why would you want to use kerosene anyway? No one does". Kerosene= cheaper fuel, less burned per unit of heat, I can see the flame (hate that about alcohol), and a much hotter flame. Being that I'm an avid cook, I can't see using that alcohol stove, there just isn't enough heat for some types of cooking. Those primus parts look promising, maybe I could just machine new brackets and replace the alcohol guts with the primus ones. Any thoughts?
12-13-2006 03:44 PM
Goodnewsboy It is far away, but:
http://www.oillamps.com.au/Kero.html...0STOVE%20PARTS
12-13-2006 02:36 PM
Faster
Quote:
Originally Posted by deckhanddave
CO is the byproduct of any inefficient oxygen/fuel combustion. Back to the question though, has anyone converted their alcohol stoves to kerosene. They seem similar so maybe I could just convert the jets?
Sorry, Dave, these threads do seem to wander, don't they.

I'm not sure but I'd think that you could modify and alcohol stove for kerosene, but the tricky part may be finding the info you need (re jet sizes etc) to do the job safely and properly.

Another option might be to change parts between two stoves - kerosene stoves are cheap at recycle outfits too.
12-13-2006 01:23 PM
svcompassrose I have an old pressure alcohol stove and pressure tank that I would like to part with. It has two burners and an oven. It has a coppertone-ish enamel finsh that is slightly cosemtically challenged, but it was working fine when I took it out of my last boat. I replaced it with stainless steel pressure alcohol stove that looked really nice. I'm in the general northern VA - DC - Annapolis area.

BTW, the current boat has propane, which has its own pros and cons. One fuel will burn you - the other will blow you up. Pick your poison and take appropriate precautions.

Eric
12-11-2006 10:24 PM
deckhanddave CO is the byproduct of any inefficient oxygen/fuel combustion. Back to the question though, has anyone converted their alcohol stoves to kerosene. They seem similar so maybe I could just convert the jets?
12-11-2006 03:54 PM
Goodnewsboy CO poisoning and CO2 asphyxiation can occur anytime there is an unvented appliance in use in a closed space. That is why there are laws and regulations that prohibit unvented heaters in residences.

Safe use of an unvented appliance (Many are in use in construction projects every winter.)requires a fair amount of ventilation through the walls of the structure to maintain oxygen supply by free communication with outside air.

The cooking stove in a boat is an unvented appliance, whether it is fuelled by alcohol, kerosene, gasoline, LPG, or wood. These flames are small and intermittent, and boats are, generally, quite well ventilated, but it is still good practice to keep some vents open just in case.
12-11-2006 03:22 PM
TrueBlue
Quote:
Originally Posted by feetup
Is there a problem with carbon monoxide using kerosine like there is with white gas as used in camp stoves?

Feetup
Good question - worthy of a debate.
Remember the reported CO poisoning deaths, resulting from those portable kerosine space heaters, popular during the '70s oil crisis? For years now, the use of kerosine heaters in home sleeping areas has been prohibited in most (if not all) US states.

I would think that boaters are more at risk of CO poisoning due to the confined areas of most boats. I would also be especially concerned with kerosine in cooktops - since galleys of smaller to mid-size boats, normally have no fume extraction equipment.
12-11-2006 03:15 PM
Faster CO is the byproduct of combustion, with incomplete or inefficient combustion producing higher levels of CO, especially if there is a lack of oxygen.

Any open flame in a confined space is a potential CO source. Ventilation and efficient combustion is key.

btw, CO's density is close to that of air and so cannot be counted on to vent up and out, but neither is it sure to sink like propane.
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