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12-19-2012 12:20 PM
hellosailor
Re: Wire Labeling So It Lasts

"the labor cost."
Well, if it is for biddiness, remember to add the cost of time for ordering, inventorying, stocking, all that overhead which usually doubles or triples small prices. With installation labor and all, maybe the labels really have to run a buck apiece by the time they reach the customer's bill?
12-18-2012 10:03 PM
Maine Sail
Re: Wire Labeling So It Lasts

Quote:
Originally Posted by GaryHLucas View Post
We pay 5.5 cents per label, including the laminating overwrap. However I wasn't actually thinking of the material cost, I was thinking of the labor cost.

The most expensive words in business might be "It only takes a minute to do!"

Gary H. Lucas

Some owners are more than willing to pay for the extra labor time, some could care less..... The added labor is not insignificant but once you get a good system it move along quickly...
12-18-2012 09:57 PM
GaryHLucas
Re: Wire Labeling So It Lasts

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Originally Posted by Maine Sail View Post
Actually I pay about $15.00 for 26' of 1/2" TZ label tape. The clear shrink I buy in 4' tubes for about $3.00(1/4") - $8.50 (for 1"). If I buy it in 50' spools it is considerably less..

So the label costs about 7˘ and the shrink about 20˘ or roughly 27˘ / label... Pretty cheap for most things "boats"....
We pay 5.5 cents per label, including the laminating overwrap. However I wasn't actually thinking of the material cost, I was thinking of the labor cost.

The most expensive words in business might be "It only takes a minute to do!"

Gary H. Lucas
12-17-2012 10:38 AM
Sn0wman
Re: Wire Labeling So It Lasts

Another amazing contribution. I think this makes about the 10th how-to of yours I have used so far, and hope to use a few more in the coming months. You have helped me impress quite a few dockmates, and make the PO envious of my upgrades. I can't thank you enough for your valuable insight.

Do you have a recommendations for where to purchase the shrink tubing? I did a google, but if you have a particular vendor that you prefer for quality of tubing, customer service etc.

Thanks again for all of this.
12-17-2012 08:56 AM
Maine Sail
Re: Wire Labeling So It Lasts

Actually I pay about $15.00 for 26' of 1/2" TZ label tape. The clear shrink I buy in 4' tubes for about $3.00(1/4") - $8.50 (for 1"). If I buy it in 50' spools it is considerably less..

So the label costs about 7˘ and the shrink about 20˘ or roughly 27˘ / label... Pretty cheap for most things "boats"....
12-16-2012 08:30 PM
GaryHLucas
Re: Wire Labeling So It Lasts

Maine,
Nice labeling, but wow that is expensive to do! We bought a DuraLabel printer a few years ago to do pipe labeling with 2" wide vinyl tape. Our printer does up to 4" wide labels. I got a roll of self laminating wire markers just to try. That was pretty much the last we used it for labels, the shop really liked the printer for wire markers. They have white area you print on and a clear overwrap that laminates the printing. The printer will print down to 1/2" wide and as long as you need your sentence to be. It makes nice looking equipment labels too. The cost of consumables makes the payback very quick if you do this as a business.

Gary H. Lucas
12-14-2012 08:49 PM
asdf38
Re: Wire Labeling So It Lasts

You'be been on a tear with some really good posts Maine.

Ever tried this? I used this on my re-wire and felt it was really good. Not the same as the printer of course. It's 0.75" square writing area with 3" of clear that can wrap around the wire and back over the writing for protection.

Self-laminating wire marker dispenser 13

Available at mcmaster:
http://www.mcmaster.com/8668T11

12-14-2012 12:38 PM
Maine Sail
Re: Wire Labeling So It Lasts

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Originally Posted by hellosailor View Post

WalMart also carries the stuff, although apparently random models and tapes are stocked. Still isn't cheap but routinely cheaper than the office supply stores.
Yes the trick is the TZ tape. I figured that out on my own through experimentation. I have occasionally found 1/2" TZ at Wal*Marts larger "super stores" but not at their smaller locations.

With Staples if you are a "rewards member" you get a chronic and often offensive number of sale emails (3-4 per day). I grab it on sale or with an emailed 20% off coupon etc... Still far cheaper than the "electrical" labeling machines and their proprietary tapes even when you add in the cost of the clear shrink...

Amazon also has TZ tape with "Prime" shipping for under $16.00 for 26'.... 26' of TZ labels goes a long way... If you are not a Prime member I would highly recommend it. My wife and I are "Prime" junkies.

Amazon Prime is $79.00 per year but you get free Prime video streaming, free two day shipping for the entire year and $3.99 next day shipping on any "Prime" eligible product. We usually pay for our Prime membership in two or three orders.. We even ordered a kayak & paddle for our daughter than was delivered in two days with the "Prime" shipping.. They even give you a search button that allows "Prime Only" eligible products to show up in your searches. Other stores, for the SAME kayak and paddle, wanted $60.00 - $120.00 just to ship. The Amazon price was even better.... Amazon Prime for us is a STEAL!!!!

Staples Rewards is one of the few vendor "sale" emails, other than Tyler Tool, that I don't have blocked on my email list...

Just picked up an 18V Porter Cable 18V liIon 1/2 inch compact drill, compact impact driver and flashlight with charger and two batteries for $128.00 shipped. Can't touch those kinds of prices and Tyler Tool (now owned by CPO stores) has some KILLER deals... The deals have actually gotten better at Tyler since being purchased by CPO Stores in 2011. They have tons of great deals on refurb stuff too..... I buy a good chunk of my tools from Tyler...

Sorry for the rant on deals.....
12-14-2012 12:09 PM
hellosailor
Re: Wire Labeling So It Lasts

Apparently the trick is in the TZ tape, which is a 3-layer laminate, not like the cheaper tapes that are just "burned" in the label maker. The cheaper (one layer) tapes are thermally "burned" to make the black printing, and they will eventually turn all-black from ambient heat. The TZ series actually transfer the "ink" to a substrate, then cover it with a top layer, so what you've got in the finished label has no way to change. (At least, no way to go all black, although I'd guess the layers could come apart in time.)

WalMart also carries the stuff, although apparently random models and tapes are stocked. Still isn't cheap but routinely cheaper than the office supply stores.
12-13-2012 08:42 PM
T37Chef Another great post with great timing as I am rewiring most everything related to the engine. THANKS!!!
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