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01-02-2013 11:56 AM
Harborless
Re: At Last! Definitive Self Defense for Sailors

I am reminded of the patrol boat from apocalypse now--- what a mind trip movie.
01-02-2013 11:56 AM
Harborless
Re: At Last! Definitive Self Defense for Sailors

It is too bad you are required to turn in your weapons upon completion of four-years active duty. As a previous 0351 I can say with certainty that all you need is an M-16 with an attachment for a 204 and some HE rounds to go with it. Or incendiar- just make sure you dont hit the boat.

While were at it I could call a few buddies over to set up their 240 Golf and Bravo on the Bow and stern, respectivley.


Right now I only have a Flare gun and a fight not flight mentality. As much as I would like to include my SMAW I dont think a re-loadable bazooka is safe for any boat. Just my 2 cents.
01-02-2013 11:36 AM
hellosailor
Re: At Last! Definitive Self Defense for Sailors

Well, if one is going to try dealing with it that way...perhaps better to learn to chug Everclear and then BREATH FIRE at them.

Do a proper Samoan fire dance (apologies to the Samoans among us, I know that's the wrong name for it) and then exhale a stream of the good stuff. I think even dedicated pirates would stop to applaude and perhaps throw coins before thanking you for the show.
01-02-2013 02:48 AM
wind_magic
Re: At Last! Definitive Self Defense for Sailors

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Originally Posted by Fstbttms View Post
Looks like a good way to set your boat on fire.
That could effectively stop a pirate attack I think.
12-31-2012 09:23 PM
Slayer
Re: At Last! Definitive Self Defense for Sailors

I was always partial to short fused sticks of dynamite.
12-31-2012 06:26 PM
Brent Swain
Re: At Last! Definitive Self Defense for Sailors

1 1/2 inch distress rocket flares would be more effective, and people are looking to give away outdated ones.
12-31-2012 03:20 PM
Brewgyver
Re: At Last! Definitive Self Defense for Sailors

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Originally Posted by SayGudday View Post
Interesting. I'd like to play around with one for a while. Not sure it'd be my first choice but I could be swayed.
SayGudday, you're won't find them in California, and it you find them elsewhere, don't bring them here. They fall into a prohibited class of weapons AND/OR ammo, under the Dangerwous Weapons Control Act, and are a FELONY to posess in this state (and likely many others - check local laws before purchasing).

If you have a double barrel shotgun, stick to 00, 0 or #4 Buckshot. Dosage and application: 1. Fire from available cover 2. Duck and reload 3. Repeat as needed
12-27-2012 11:22 PM
MacGyverRI
Re: At Last! Definitive Self Defense for Sailors

FYI, it's not a Flare, it's payload is Magnesium and makes it an "Incendiary" round. Made from mixed small and larger pieces. The lg. pieces will do the major fire damage and the sm. pieces help light them up in the barrel which is why NO Semi-Auto guns (gas port for the action) should ever use them.

Magnesium doesn't go out easily and will burn under water. Fire depts. dread Magnesium fires because they can't use Water. But, it's much safer than any Phosphorous Shell or Flare to store.

From Wiki; Magnesium is capable of reducing water to highly flammable hydrogen gas and as a result, water cannot be used to extinguish magnesium fires; the hydrogen gas produced will only intensify the fire.

Magnesium also reacts with carbon dioxide to form magnesium oxide and carbon:
hence, carbon dioxide fire extinguishers cannot be used for extinguishing magnesium fires either.

Sand or a Dry Chem. extinguisher are the only things that will put it out (if it's much larger pieces of Mag.)

If you were to shoot them at a Boat attacking you and even a few of the pieces burn through into the Bilge, that Boat is basically gone!!

HTH!
12-27-2012 08:46 AM
ftldiver
Re: At Last! Definitive Self Defense for Sailors

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Originally Posted by IronSpinnaker View Post
Yeah they are just incendiary rounds... they contain Phosphorus. The down side is that they burn from the end of the barrel to about 200-300 ft out. The pile of wood had to have fuel on it and the round is just used for ignition. On their own they will not start much on fire... Probably could set a fiberglass boat on fire though... and they are scary as hell when fired.
1+ all for show. its just a flare gun round.
12-27-2012 12:05 AM
SayGudday
Re: At Last! Definitive Self Defense for Sailors

Interesting. I'd like to play around with one for a while. Not sure it'd be my first choice but I could be swayed.
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