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01-05-2013 03:40 PM
chef2sail
Re: Autopilot replacement recommendations

Do a search of Sailnet Posting on the X5 there are a number of recent threads. We have one and it has been flawless for the most part and have posted in the other threads also to its problems.

Dave
01-05-2013 03:30 PM
dashman
Re: Autopilot replacement recommendations

I am looking for an autopilot for a Tartan 37 (16000 lbs). I would like to get the good, bad & ugly on Raymarine X5 and CPT - thanks

Al
12-31-2012 02:28 PM
chef2sail
Re: Autopilot replacement recommendations

Quote:
Originally Posted by patrscoe View Post
Are there any Raymarine X-5 users out there that have put this unit on a 15,000# displacement sailboat?
The unit spec states 16,500 but also states to consider the fully laden load, which may be up to 20%. Better than specs are sometimes user comments, pros and cons.
Our primary sailing grounds is Chesapeake Bay with some coastal cursing on the east coast. No open ocean sailing.

Second guessing my Simrad system and design. I have created a layout for the SD-10 linear drive, went out there this weekend and realize that it will be a very tight fix and it may not work or at least, a very difficult install and relocating many things, etc...
Pat I sent you a PM answering yours. Most of our sailing is on the Chessie too and the X5 has performed well for us. Took me about 5 hours to install and had a little challenge initially with the sea test with reverse wires, but its all good now. There is support threads for X5 installation on here as many have gonne to it. It appears to be the only good choice for wheel pilots.

Dave
12-31-2012 11:32 AM
patrscoe
Re: Autopilot replacement recommendations

Are there any Raymarine X-5 users out there that have put this unit on a 15,000# displacement sailboat?
The unit spec states 16,500 but also states to consider the fully laden load, which may be up to 20%. Better than specs are sometimes user comments, pros and cons.
Our primary sailing grounds is Chesapeake Bay with some coastal cursing on the east coast. No open ocean sailing.

Second guessing my Simrad system and design. I have created a layout for the SD-10 linear drive, went out there this weekend and realize that it will be a very tight fix and it may not work or at least, a very difficult install and relocating many things, etc...
12-30-2012 06:59 PM
ncapener
Re: Autopilot replacement recommendations

Quote:
Originally Posted by jrd22 View Post
I've read that Simrad's sail/wind feature is great. I'm looking at the ComNav, but every time I get close to pulling the trigger the old Autohelm starts working well again:-))
I installed a ComNav 1420 three years ago. Last summer it quit. Took to the dealer I bought it from who sent it to Vancouver to fix. Diagnosed the control head to be water damaged beyond repair and would I please buy a new one. Since the control head is sold as "waterproof" I sent several emails to ComNav pleading my case for a free replacement. I did finally get a new free one. Total time:5 weeks.

Neal
12-29-2012 07:40 AM
diz
Re: Autopilot replacement recommendations

Patrick,

I went down the same path - looking for a Simrad wheeldrive. They used to make them, and older units can be found on ebay, etc. I emailed Simrad when I was still shopping, and they told me they have no current plans to bring back a wheeldrive system.

I don't know how well the NSS would integrate w/ the raymarine autopilot control box. I believe the NSS documentation stated that autopilot control would only work w/ a Simrad autopilot. If you already have the NSS though, and you're into that type of work, it might be worth spending some time spent experimenting.

Due to the popularity of the NSS, I didn't take a big hit when I sold it (on ebay). Maybe $350 or so less than what I paid, including ebay fees, IIRC.
12-27-2012 07:11 PM
funjohnson
Re: Autopilot replacement recommendations

Anyone want a Simrad HLD350 MKII linear drive for $1,000.00? I bought it before I decided on the Raymarine linear drive unit instead as it fit my install better.
12-27-2012 01:50 PM
jrd22
Re: Autopilot replacement recommendations

I've read that Simrad's sail/wind feature is great. I'm looking at the ComNav, but every time I get close to pulling the trigger the old Autohelm starts working well again:-))
12-27-2012 01:15 PM
patrscoe
Re: Autopilot replacement recommendations

Diz, Thanks for your response and update.
Although I like the NSS7, Simrad seems to be a more expensive than others, and a little harder to find. Probably because they are less common than Raymarine or Garmin.

I sent a email to Simrad to see if the NSS and my Simnet backbone could integrate with the Raymarine X5 autopilot but currently received no response. Although the NSS is NMEA2000 compatible, my new Simrad Windvane-transducer is not compatible with Raymarine products.
What I want is a X5 but made by Simrad manufacturer so my system is compatible throughout. Also the X5 has a good price of around $1,600, complete. I am looking at about $2,800 for the below.
So my plan is to install the SD10 Simrad linear drive which comes with a built in rudder feed back, AC12 computer, RC42 compass and will use my NSS as the control.
Have a preliminary layout for the SD10 drive which will require some fabrication work.
12-27-2012 09:25 AM
diz
Re: Autopilot replacement recommendations

Patrscoe, I tried to PM you back regarding this thread:

69570-simrad-sd10-autopilot.html

but it wouldn't let me as I don't have enough posts. Similarly, it won't let me post a link to that thread, but a search will get you there.

Here's a summary of what I attempted to send.

I worked up a plan for installing an SD10, and in the end I couldn't personally justify the work that would have required. So I went with an X5 wheelpilot instead. I sold my NSS7 and replaced it with an e7 to have some degree of autopilot control from the MFD. The NSS has better autopilot control, but the e7 worked fine last summer. The X5 worked well also. It did throw an alarm once, and when I disengaged it I realized I had a ton of weather helm, so the alarm was due entirely to my ignorance. We threw in a reef and it took us the rest of the way to our destination without issue. Our boat is about 15,500 pounds.

Clearly a below deck autopilot has other benefits, but I couldn't get into the project given other things I have going on.

Good luck with your project!
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