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01-01-2013 06:05 PM
MarkofSeaLife
Re: Two dumb anchoring questions

Yes, if you are chartering just grab a mooring.

The only times I have used a mooring ball in the BVIs was one or two nights when I had a friend on board and wanted to get the closest spot to the beach to make the holiday experience better for my friend.

However if you are taking your own boat then you can anchor in each and every bay. I even did Trellis Bay on the pick!

Someone said use a scope of 7:1. I think they may have misread your post and thought you meant the Bahamas with very shallow water. Often in the BVIs you will be anchoring in 30 feet of water that's 210 feet of chain. In 30 feet I use about 120 feet chain.

My basic rule of where to drop is 3 boat lengths astern of the clown in front. Dump say 90 feet chain down and when it settles relax to the wind a minute or two then pull slowly back till I dig in. Then I increase the revs to pull back hard.

Then I watch for 30 minutes and if I am not happy i will move. A few weeks ago in the ICW I re anchored FIVE times before I was happy (grass over hard mud???) but I didn't get embarrassed or distracted, just did it again and again till it got in.
Then I dump in the rest of the chain to my desired scope.

Next point is most important.... When I am anchored and someone else arrives to anchor near me I give them a cheery wave and GO BELOW! I do not stand on deck watching them. I do not stand with my arms folded claiming I own the water etc.
I stay below for 30 minutes.
Why?
Because most people will work out if they have dropped in the right spot within 30 minutes. But sometimes it takes that long to tell.
Then if I have a REAL problem with the new people I will go in the dinghy and ask them about their cruise, etc, and then ask them if they have anchored here before etc etc etc.... I don't think I have ever told someone outright they are too close, but after a bit of discussion the new people always mention it.... And then they move.

And when I have just anchored I jump in the dink and go say hello to the arms folded wanker brigade... And the nice people too. Funnily enough some of the arms folded people turn out to be quite nice.... Just a bad first impression.

Re the rudder. When there is no current the helm can be amidships. But in current you are free to experiment. If you are a bit close to another boat you can swing the helm a bit.... But you need to remember the tide changes!




Mark
01-01-2013 04:37 PM
lans0012
Re: Two dumb anchoring questions

I just got back from a week charter in the BVI's. Never even opened the anchor locker. We picked up moorings every night. They are charging $30 now almost everywhere we went. Most of the boats that we saw anchored were beyond the mooring fields. We we're early risers and sailors so we usually had plenty to chose from. Considering how much you are already spending on the trip, I would just pick up a ball and forget about it. Unless you want to try some of the more secluded anchorages.

We sail the west coast of FL and it is pretty typical that people just swing on one anchor in the busy anchorages except if you are trying to get stern in on as close to the beach as you can get. Rudder position not important but it is important to know how much rode your neighbors (and of course yourself) have out.
01-01-2013 03:44 PM
Minnewaska
Re: Two dumb anchoring questions

But, in February, you want to arrive between 2 and 3 to be sure there are moorings available.
01-01-2013 03:07 PM
chucklesR
Re: Two dumb anchoring questions

25 bucks a night gets a mooring ball.
ALMOST every harbor has balls throughout.
Skip anchoring, get a good nights sleep.
12-31-2012 06:01 PM
Minnewaska
Re: Two dumb anchoring questions

Last I was there, two years ago, we anchored between shore and the mooring field at Bitter End Yacht club. Granted, it was tight. We've also anchored on the west side of Peter Island, can't recall the beach name. Spent a night on the south side of Beef Island, near the airport, on anchor. No one there, but not very picturesque either.

The coves are often plenty large enough, but they can get too deep for the tackle on the bareboats. Shallower areas of popular spots are filled with mooring, but you can often find a place around the edges, if you poke around carefully.
12-31-2012 05:34 PM
jackdale
Re: Two dumb anchoring questions

There are very few spots left to anchor - maybe in North Sound.

You do not want to be in a marina - way too hot with little circulation in the boat.

I centre and lock the rudder /wheel. On a mooring ball as well.

To eye ball distances, think on boat lengths. If you have radar use the VRM to measure distances.

I like to be a rodes length from other boats. Not always possible.
12-31-2012 05:28 PM
CaptTony Most of the popular anchorages have moorings, usually at $25 per night with a few exceptions (Bitter End for one). If you try to anchor where mooring balls are, it is not easy. Relax and enjoy yourself. Bring extra money for the moorings.
12-31-2012 04:13 PM
Minnewaska
Re: Two dumb anchoring questions

Few thoughts.

It's vacation! If you're new to anchoring, bring an extra $100 and get a mooring here and there and relax.

Winds are generally Easterly, so fully swinging around the anchor is unlikely (but not unheard of in a squall)

If you are worried about anchoring, you can usually find a spot that is further from the action, but it's probably further from shore or the nearby popular landing. A longer dinghy ride might be better than worrying.

Take whatever depth you are in, add the distance from the water to your bow roller and multiply it all by 7. That is how much rode you should put out. While more is technically better, if you put out 10x, you will be the swing problem in the anchorage.

Now I have some good new and some bad news. The good news is, you're not alone, half the bareboats around you are probably as inexperienced in anchoring. The bad is, you have to worry about them too.

Chill and have a great time. You have nothing else to do but play with your boat, swim, eat and drink!!!
12-31-2012 04:11 PM
Bradhamlet
Re: Two dumb anchoring questions

I like to anchor with my rudder mid ship/straight. If the need arises and you need to get out fast this helps. I also make a note to which direction is open (compos course) should we need to get away from a now lee shore. No dumb questions, just not yet answered. I like distance between myself and others, safety, privacy.

Brad
Lancer 36
12-31-2012 03:03 PM
dave22q
Re: Two dumb anchoring questions

rudder position not important. length of rode is. you need to know your neighbor's setup on else allow lots of extra distance. good rule of thumb is if you have doubts add more distance.
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