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12-25-2016 11:39 AM
Shawn McWhorter
Re: Looking for the perfect boat

Thank you I dug around and found out it is a 2023R but the weird part is on the stern of the boat we have it says 2030. I am also looking for a tuning guide if you have any idea where that lives!
Thanks again for your help !

12-25-2016 09:39 AM
Re: Looking for the perfect boat

Originally Posted by Shawn McWhorter View Post
Does anyone here own or know where I can get information on the Santana 2030?
I think the poster had the boat model wrong and was actually referring to the Santana 2023. Here's some info.

SANTANA 2023A sailboat specifications and details on
12-24-2016 04:50 PM
Re: Looking for the perfect boat

3 year old thread, he probably is on a 30 footer by now.
12-24-2016 10:07 AM
Shawn McWhorter
Re: Looking for the perfect boat

Does anyone here own or know where I can get information on the Santana 2030?
03-14-2013 08:58 AM
Re: Looking for the perfect boat

Currently a couple thousand above your range, but pretty fast (198 phrf), a nice sized cabin that could sleep four: S2 6.9

1983 S2 6.9 sailboat for sale in North Carolina
03-14-2013 02:47 AM
Re: Looking for the perfect boat

Go with a late 70's J24. The cabin accommodations are modest... But it will sail incredibly! And they are easy to trailor... There are a couple out there with a comprehensive sail inventory for around 5k....
01-04-2013 12:31 PM
Re: Looking for the perfect boat

If you want FAST .... Id suggest an Ultimate 20 (PHRF @ 145 or Portsmouth Yardstick rating @ 79.9), quite quick and with a large cuddy cabin. U20 Class Association. Used prices will be $15K+

More in your $5K budget range: Another with a small cuddy cabin would be the Holder 20. ( .... at about Portsmouth 84-85 rating, or PHRF 175).

Comparing the U20, the San Juan 21 would be at about 260 PHRF or 95 Portsmouth ... (a pig! if you're looking for 'fast'). The only problem with a 'fast' boat such as the U20 is you will dominate most PHRF/Portmouth fleets and won't be 'progressing' with your sailing skills as fast as with a 'mid fleet' rated boat. Being well in front of any mixed fleet all the time gets boring real fast.

FWIW - racing Portsmouth Yardstick handicap is VASTLY superior to the stodgy and political PHRF and you might want to consider to locate fleets that race under the Portsmouth Yardstick rules. The reason is with PHRF and for FAST boats of near 20ft. LOA, many times you're beaten by the PHRF 'numbers' before you even leave the dock. Portsmouth ratings corrects for varying wind strengths, etc. Portsmouth Yardstick Index
01-04-2013 11:57 AM
Re: Looking for the perfect boat

We have a large fleet of SJ 21s in Calgary. They are fun to race. I have not overnighted on one though.
01-04-2013 10:34 AM
Alex W
Re: Looking for the perfect boat

It might be harder to find for under $5k, but I've raced on Capri 22s and they are a lot of fun. They have a larger cockpit than the Catalina 22 and are a lot faster. PHRF is 210.

My only complaint on the Capri 22 is that the boom is quite low and has a sharp edge along the bottom that really hurts when it wacks you.

I don't know how common they are for one design. I've raced them at a sailing school which has a small fleet of them.

You might also look into the Ranger 23 or other small Gary Mull boats. He designed a lot of the boats already mentioned in this thread and seems like the most prolific designer of small racing keelboats.
01-02-2013 08:20 PM
Looking for the perfect boat

I sail a Catalina 22 - as stated in an earlier reply, they are a great all-around boat, can be purchased very reasonably, but do not excel in any one area. We are lake cruisers and our C-22 is a great fit for our family. There is a very C-22 racing fleet in my area, too.

As we were docking this weekend, we saw a really nice looking Santana 2030 - beautiful! The owner is a racer and he has the "R" model for that purpose. These are water ballast 23-footers - really nice. I have no idea about price or availability; but, definitely worth your while to research them a bit more.
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