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01-03-2013 01:48 PM
arf145
Re: Anyone make their own jackets etc.

I've made a lot of backpacking gear, such as packs, sleeping bags and tents, not that many major pieces of clothing. I have made a couple of down jackets, trying to base them on a jacket I had rather than a pattern. The styling came out iffy, but they functioned well. Technical fabrics can be found out there: look at Outdoor Wilderness Fabrics, Rockywoods, and ThruHiker . ThruHiker usually has very lightweight stuff. I know this is a non-related brag, but using their materials, I made a 30-degree down bag that weights 1 lb 5 oz.
01-03-2013 12:18 PM
outbound
Re: Anyone make their own jackets etc.

have the west third reef stuff which is fine until it rains or is windy enough to give seasmoke. waited for a sale and bought OS1 stuff. The difference in all brands seems to be coastal- 1 layer membrane, offshore 2 layers, ocean 3 or 4. figure cold and wet means tired and stupid. I'm stupid enough. if left on the boat and rinsed with fresh water now and again you can get multiple seasons out of this stuff so the expense per year aint enough to justify being miserable.
p.s.- wear the west stuff when I go ashore. keeps the prices down if I have to buy anything and the good stuff clean.
01-03-2013 12:03 PM
hellosailor
Re: Anyone make their own jackets etc.

wind-
Gore warrants the performance of their material, and since you are buying it in a jacket, made by a licensed vendor, they don't just send you a couple of yards of Gore-Tex, they will replace the jacket with any comparable new one made of Gore-Tex.
When I say counterfeit I mean counterfeit, not just other fabrics. There are/were sellers on eBay offering to sell "Genuine Gore-Tex" clothing ocmplete with tags etc. for prices that are simply too good to be true. Some of that is, literally, counterfeit. It is something else from someone else, with a Gore label stuck on it.
Gore won't warranty that. In order to collect, you do have to send them the old jacket, and they will check to make sure it IS Gore-Tex, and it HAS failed.
Some of the companies using Gore-Tex are equally generous on warranty terms, others aren't. It is, after all, insurance. A lot of folks would just give their raingear away and buy new stuff before it failed, so, the odds are in Gore's favor.
01-03-2013 11:24 AM
Squidd
Re: Anyone make their own jackets etc.

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Originally Posted by Lake Superior Sailor View Post
To get the right captain's coat I had to get at the sewing machine! Patterns are available, But; the 30 brass buttons where hard to find ,For material I stayed to navy blue wool. You could get what ever you want at a fabric store. What I am looking for is a good three corner hat!...Dale
And an eye patch.....Don't forget the eyepatch....
01-02-2013 09:27 PM
windnrock
Re: Anyone make their own jackets etc.

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Originally Posted by hellosailor View Post
There is one advantage to gen-you-whine GoreTex over any other material. If your Gore-Tex product is genuine, not counterfeit, and it carries one of their "extreme wet weather" or similar warranties?

Well, after five years anything may be leaking. But Gore will stand up to their warranty and REPLACE IT FREE OF CHARGE and speaking from experience, they've got great warranty service.

$900 is still a lot of money for a jacket. But in the $200-400 end of the market...Gore's warranty can effectively cut your price in half, whatever it is.
Am I to understand that Gore-tex offered a warranty on a manufactured product, not just their material? The other products are not "counterfeit" they are just different micro porous materials, the Gore-Tex patent expired as well. Many are found in reputable products like Mountain Hardware, Patagonia, NorthFace and others. The benefits are that some products are more weather resistant and some are more breathable. Gill seems to be one of the more reasonably priced when on sale as well as SLAM. Henri Lloyd seems to be proud no matter what.
01-02-2013 08:24 PM
bljones
Re: Anyone make their own jackets etc.

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I have acquired a bunch of expensive gore-tex items over the last 25 years which i continue to nurse along as they work better than anything else


If for example you go to Target and look real careful you can find Poly Pro/wool base layers for 20 cents on the dollar and its what keeps you warm anyway

To be honest there is NO membrane or series of base and mid layers made that can pass the amount of moisture i generate when active and i ALWAYS get wet from the inside out

For my sailing i make due with some mid level west marine stuff
Tom, I love ya, man, I respect your workmanship, I admire your advice, but....
You're wearing tights. That just ain't right unless you are drawn by Stan Lee.

I do agree that $900 will buy a wardrobe. I have a perfectly serviceable West Marine "Third reef" jacket and bib overall pair that I have worn through five years of three season sailing and when shoveling snow in -10 degree weather and has been comfortable and effective.
For less than $300 on sale.
My boots have leaked more than the pants or jacket have, and with the conditions-appropriate layering underneath, I can gear down or gear up as conditions require without losing windbreaking or waterproof performance.
01-02-2013 07:04 PM
MarkSF
Re: Anyone make their own jackets etc.

So far I have found West Marine's Third Reef jacket to be more than adequate. It doesn't breathe well, but then neither does PVC fishing gear, and that works for fishermen. Third Reef is nearly always on sale :

WEST MARINE Men's Third Reef Jacket at West Marine
01-02-2013 07:00 PM
hellosailor
Re: Anyone make their own jackets etc.

There is one advantage to gen-you-whine GoreTex over any other material. If your Gore-Tex product is genuine, not counterfeit, and it carries one of their "extreme wet weather" or similar warranties?

Well, after five years anything may be leaking. But Gore will stand up to their warranty and REPLACE IT FREE OF CHARGE and speaking from experience, they've got great warranty service.

$900 is still a lot of money for a jacket. But in the $200-400 end of the market...Gore's warranty can effectively cut your price in half, whatever it is.
01-02-2013 06:53 PM
windnrock
Re: Anyone make their own jackets etc.

Don't worry so much about the fabric, if it isn't goretex or not. Most of the waterproof/breathable fabrics all perform similarly well. Focus more on zippers, seams, pockets, pitzips etc. Most jackets tend to leak in these areas regardless of the fabric. Garment should have welded seams and be lined on the inside. Read up on different products and their properties. Also consider, slightly less waterproof = more breathable.
01-02-2013 05:52 PM
hellosailor
Re: Anyone make their own jackets etc.

David, I try to shop around at the end of the year clearances, when lines are bing changed and last year's color goes for cheap.

DIY on foulies could be a major task. The fabrics, whether you want gen-you-whine GoreTex or anything else breathable, are probably available SOME where. The patterns, with storm cuffs and a good collar and hood? Well, you can make your own pattern, start with cheap poplin or canvas and mock it up.

Then of coure there's the sewing. Even if you are that good on that complex a shape (and I'm told that the crotch on men's pants is the hardest thing to sew properly, stick to kilts) if you want to stay dry you also need to tape and seal the seams, all of them. Another good trick, locate the right adhesive and tape.

Dunno, I'd think buying a risky bargain on Gen-you-whine GoreTex for China, where Gore says they don't sell it, would be a whole lot less painful.

I wait like a vulture for the sales, and for the sales at the camping/hunting outlets.
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