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11-09-2009 09:44 AM
JohnRPollard
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Originally Posted by Builditjose View Post
What I see as a concern regarding the stanchions is the ones in my 30' call are mounted on the deck inboard of the toe trim. That reduces my walking area by 5" don't appear much, but in a dry run it makes a difference when freed up. I am considering buying or having build through the hull side monting stanchions that would bolt 2" below the rub rails. They would be 3" wide by 5" long 1/4" plate with 1" tube soket wellded along the center of the 5" lenght of the plate. It would have four through bolted mounting bolts with a 1/8" backing plate. All bolts will have appropriate size washer on the inside. the stanchions will be 36" long by 31/32" held in place with through bolt and lock nut. The stachions will have two safet SS wire. After installation the Stanchions should be 25" above the deck. Please comment on my idea as I am seriously interested in increasing the walk area from cockpit to bow on my boat. It allows me to have greater balance. Thank you
Here's how it's done on Pacific Seacraft vessels, with 30" stanchions mounted horizontally to raised bulwarks, nicely freeing-up the sidedecks:

11-08-2009 01:59 PM
mitiempo I replaced the stanchions on a 30' boat with 28" including the bow and stern rail. I think it looked fine and worked well. The boat had a fairly deep cockpit and the extra height of the stern rail made is seem very protected as well. Lifelines should be bare wire as you never know what's happening under that plastic covering. If they get a meathook or burr, they are in need of replacement. Current offshore racing regulations call for bare wire, not covered.
Brian
11-08-2009 12:09 PM
RainDog
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Originally Posted by wungout View Post
Just wondering if anyone has 30-inch stanchions on their 32-33 foot boat.
Yes. Quite a few boats this size have 30-inch+ stanchions. For one, the Pacific Seacraft 31 has 31 inch stanchions.
11-08-2009 11:22 AM
Faster
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Originally Posted by Builditjose View Post
What I see as a concern regarding the stanchions is the ones in my 30' call are mounted on the deck inboard of the toe trim. That reduces my walking area by 5" don't appear much, but in a dry run it makes a difference when freed up. I am considering buying or having build through the hull side monting stanchions .....
It's true many boats' stanchions are a fair few inches inboard, restricting the usable width of the side decks. Your solution would deal with that issue, but may look a tad "industrial" and certainly different. It would also increase your effective beam and may interfere with rafting up to other vessels (if you do any of that)

It will also be further complicated by requiring full access to the inside of the hull in those areas which may be awkward due to liners and ceiling finishes.

Another option, since you're into some welding anyway, might be to modify the existing stanchions so the splay outward at 5 degrees or so, giving you a wider passage at the top lifeline height.
11-08-2009 09:47 AM
chef2sail Standard 24" for me.

While I agree with much of what saildog writes in this case I would go with the coated lifelines and just replace them every 6=8 years or so.

I have seen a small burr on an uncoated lifeline put a few huge tears in a 3-4 thousand dollar jib.

CS Johnson is where i buy mine. In addition the stantions can be place on in two manners if you have an anodized toe rail like our C&C does. Original equipment on C&C was a stantion which was intergrated and attached to the toe rails thus providing greater support than the standard backing plate most stations are installed with. Another advantage to this set up is it gives maximum width to the gunwale. www. niagara.com South Shore Yachts sells these.

Dave
11-08-2009 07:14 AM
Builditjose What I see as a concern regarding the stanchions is the ones in my 30' call are mounted on the deck inboard of the toe trim. That reduces my walking area by 5" don't appear much, but in a dry run it makes a difference when freed up. I am considering buying or having build through the hull side monting stanchions that would bolt 2" below the rub rails. They would be 3" wide by 5" long 1/4" plate with 1" tube soket wellded along the center of the 5" lenght of the plate. It would have four through bolted mounting bolts with a 1/8" backing plate. All bolts will have appropriate size washer on the inside. the stanchions will be 36" long by 31/32" held in place with through bolt and lock nut. The stachions will have two safet SS wire. After installation the Stanchions should be 25" above the deck. Please comment on my idea as I am seriously interested in increasing the walk area from cockpit to bow on my boat. It allows me to have greater balance. Thank you
12-20-2006 09:56 PM
dnseal
Stainless all the around (top rail only of course)

I agree with Faster's comments, stainless top rail all the way around. Not only would it increase the possibilitiy of grabbing ahold of it, but since all the stanchions are now connected the over all system strength would improve greatly. I will be modifying my Stella as such, but then again with a 58ft LOD I guess she need something like this.


Gil
12-19-2006 04:36 PM
TrueBlue Although a different scenario than wungout's, I have considered raising the railing at the aft helm deck on my boat, for several reasons.

Currently the solid teak cap over SS stanchions, completely lining my boat's perimeter, is 24" from deck. This normally provides adequate safety when offshore, but this comfort level begins to diminish when on the low side while heeled over. I think it's at the correct height, aesthetically and functionally, but my wife wishes it was a few inches higher.

Her greatest concern is the rigidity of the railing. last year, she received a nasty hematoma after slamming her back against the teak rail, after being subjected to a huge ferry wake. A lifeline would have been more resilient.

The consideration shortly after this incident, was to extend 8"-12" SS stanchions above the teak cap, threaded with a tensioned SS lifeline. Thankfully, this silly idea has not been brought up again since.
12-19-2006 04:31 PM
hellosailor I've always felt a lifeline was there for two reasons:

First, to nudge the back of your leg and remind you "Hey dummy, you're about to step off the boat!". Taller or shorter won't affect that gentle reminder, 30" tall might just make it tall enough to tear at belts and pockets. And if you're loading or unloading the boat, the damned things just get in the way, taller gets in the way more.

Second, so you've got something to grab while you are about to ROLL off the deck, or lying on the deck, or seated on the deck. In which case 24" is still plenty tall enough to do the job.

Any way you could just install something else--inboard--to grab or assist in the lunge in/out of the cockpit?

If you want a cheap trial of taller stanchions, stop at the hardware store, get some 1/2" PVC pipe, cut it up into 30" lengths, and tie them to the stanchions on one side of the boat. See how you like that, before you invest in stainless. Shouldn't cost you more than $5-6 for six pieces that way.
12-19-2006 04:30 PM
wungout
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Originally Posted by sailingfool
24 inches is a very common height for sailboat stanchions, I doubt you gain anything worth gaining by increasing it, especially as you will live daily with the awkward cosmetics of stanchions/lifelines that don't match your bow and stern rail heights,as it'd cost a small fortune to raise the rails...
Check the wish list for something with greater utility to spend this money on...
Excellent points! I should add, the bow pulpit was smashed along with the stanchions in Hurricane Ivan. The stern pulpit is a custom-made, cage affair and very tall. No problem there. This is what got me started down this path in the first place, I suppose. I have yet to replace the bow rail, so I could fit it to new stanchion heights and, voila! Experience has taught me, however, that my bright ideas aren't always what they appear in the flash of inspiration. Just wondering if anyone has 30-inch stanchions on their 32-33 foot boat. Thanks for the observations so far.
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