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02-02-2013 02:38 PM
djodenda
Re: Looking for soft mud to test an anchor...

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Originally Posted by jrd22 View Post
holding now). Not sure, but I also recollect that Fisherman Bay on Lopez is muddy,
It's muddy, but sticky mud. A mess to clean up, but easy anchoring
02-02-2013 01:03 PM
MedSailor
Re: Looking for soft mud to test an anchor...

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Originally Posted by blt2ski View Post
No worries Med,

I'll erase my post...you can erase yours. or we can get into a shouting pissing swearing match which includes cooking and eating fuzzy wombat types, that would surely get said thread erased from memory, so you will not have to be to embarrassed about forgetting there was a pile of mud just outside your door!

Marty
Perhaps you have the general discussion forum mistaken for off topic? Or is it just that I mentioned the word anchor which raises the rancor? You should have heard the names I called you in the posts I've already deleted from this thread. They were enough to give Dennis Leary a heart attack.

Port Madison is a good thought. My windlass was kaput when I anchored there to fix it using the Fortress I keep on rope that can be deployed by hand. I was okay but TWO other boats drifted down onto me. Strange thing was there was no wind at the time they drifted down onto me.

When one boat got close enough that I could knock on the hull with the boat hook, the sleeping arm-candy wakes up and yells at me for parking so close to her boyfriend's boat. "We were here first! We've been here for hours and when I went to sleep you weren't here so we were here first!!" "Ummm mam, when you went to sleep you were over THERE."

MedSailor
02-02-2013 06:10 AM
PCP
Re: Looking for soft mud to test an anchor...

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Originally Posted by Minnewaska View Post
The trouble with measuring anchor holding is that you could theoretically have constant pull, even though you are dragging.

Imagine you are set and create a couple thousand pounds of pull, then the anchor starts to drag through the bottom, but doesn't come unset.
In fact good anchors drag slowly after a given force, I mean really slow on the bottom at extreme forces without coming out.

More recent tests with anchors has been made measuring that too. They have a diver in the water to access that.

Regards

Paulo
02-02-2013 04:06 AM
aeventyr60
Re: Looking for soft mud to test an anchor...

I remember dragging around in Port Madison after a 180 degree wind shift and a stiff breeze....
02-02-2013 02:38 AM
blt2ski
Re: Looking for soft mud to test an anchor...

No worries Med,

I'll erase my post...you can erase yours. or we can get into a shouting pissing swearing match which includes cooking and eating fuzzy wombat types, that would surely get said thread erased from memory, so you will not have to be to embarrassed about forgetting there was a pile of mud just outside your door!

Marty
02-01-2013 11:45 PM
MedSailor
Re: Looking for soft mud to test an anchor...

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Originally Posted by blt2ski View Post
Doesn't skagit bay have some mud? or east of Anacortes some too?

Marty


You're right! The softest mud I've ever encountered is 4 nautical miles from my slip!!! (I have once taken keel-soundings in that mud ) I never thought of that because I never anchor there, it would be a bit like pitching a tent in your back yard....

Well sheesh! I recently found an eelgrass bed within sight of my slip and soft mud is nearby. Mantus VS Fortress test coming up! (in a few months, when the weather improves, and after my haulout )

MedSailor
02-01-2013 09:52 PM
blt2ski
Re: Looking for soft mud to test an anchor...

Doesn't skagit bay have some mud? or east of Anacortes some too?

If you get down to Lk Washington, juanita Bay in the middle NE part of the lake is pretty muddy!

Now that I am typing, I am recalling a Mud bay somewhere close by.

Marty
02-01-2013 04:13 PM
Minnewaska
Re: Looking for soft mud to test an anchor...

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Originally Posted by MedSailor View Post
Seems like pull, plus GPS speed over ground would fix that. If the pull is there and the SOG is 0.0 you're not dragging.

MedSailor
Even some swing will display as SOG. The likely scenario is getting a bit of both, inconsistently.
02-01-2013 11:48 AM
MedSailor
Re: Looking for soft mud to test an anchor...

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Originally Posted by Minnewaska View Post
The trouble with measuring anchor holding is that you could theoretically have constant pull, even though you are dragging.

Imagine you are set and create a couple thousand pounds of pull, then the anchor starts to drag through the bottom, but doesn't come unset.
Seems like pull, plus GPS speed over ground would fix that. If the pull is there and the SOG is 0.0 you're not dragging.

MedSailor
02-01-2013 03:28 AM
chef2sail
Re: Looking for soft mud to test an anchor...

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Have you seen anyone test in grass? That's the one that seems able to defeat any anchor system and we have a few places with it, if you don't get on a mooring.
Agreed. That's the only bottom here I have ever anchored in with my Rocna that I have actually had to reset a couple of times. Some of the creeks here have grassy bottoms.


Dave
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