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08-24-2014 05:47 PM
Night_Sailor
Re: Mast (Climbing)- No Halyards

Quote:
Originally Posted by Minnewaska View Post
Night...... How do you feel about someone who quotes an 18 month old post and repeats advice given already?
I only get on here once every two years. I don't read other peoples responses, I write my own.

How old is it now? 4 years? Who cares?

As for the extreme clueless, there are people who are a danger to themselves and others. They should play golf to limit the damages.

In any event, I sometimes wonder if the administrators don't feed the forums with nonsense queries like this just to generate conversation.
02-04-2013 08:20 AM
savinhill
Re: Mast (Climbing)- No Halyards

Rent an extention ladder and tie it to the mast as you go up it works well and is quite safe!!!
05-29-2012 07:45 AM
Minnewaska
Re: Mast (Climbing)- No Halyards

Quote:
Originally Posted by Night_Sailor View Post

Mike sell your boat. You have no business being on the water with ideas like this. Trust me, I've been teaching sailing part time for over 40 years. People with clueless ideas like this are a danger to themselves and others. Get and RV and be safe.

For any real sailors out there. Try using a couple pieces of thin strong line and make loops and attach them to a thick rope halyard with prussic knots. It works but is a bit slow. I've done it. Ascenders might be better but at a higher cost. A mast mate works, although I've never used one. None of this works without a halyard and of course a second one for a safety.
Night...... How do you feel about someone who quotes an 18 month old post and repeats advice given already?
05-29-2012 07:27 AM
Bene505
Re: Mast (Climbing)- No Halyards

If I ever lose all halyards at once, I plan to us a couple lines, each wrapped around the mast 4 or more times, with some slack in the final loop. Then I'll use each of those as prusic knots, sliding them up one at a time, and letting them support the chair and foot loops on my TopClimber.

(I use this technique when installing my main sail solo. The top sliders go into the track first, which means I'm lifting significant weight while fiddling with getting the final sliders/cars inserted. The mast loops -- tied around the mast below the lowest inserted slider/car -- relieve the weight and make the job easy. Think of this as separating the act of lifting from the act of inserting the sliders/cars. It becomes a casual activity instead.)

Ascending the mast this way would be slow going, and I'd need to re-tie new loops after each spreader, but it would work, slowly. It would probably take 3 hours to ascend.

My lawyer just called. This is too dangerous, don't do any of this. Hire a professional rigger. They could use the work and they know what they are doing. And you'll likely get some hints on any obvious issues.

Regards,
Brad
05-28-2012 12:19 AM
Lake Superior Sailor
Re: Mast (Climbing)- No Halyards

Mike, glad to see you found sailnet! {Night Sailor;maybe you should curb your opinons!} Sailing is a lesson we are always learning--Enjoy!...Dale
05-27-2012 09:59 PM
Night_Sailor
Re: Mast (Climbing)- No Halyards

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Originally Posted by batshaven View Post
Hi all,
Glad to have found this group and am new here. Actually new to the whole
sailing thing.
Purchased our 72 26 MKII in April and had a great summer on it, motored
everywhere since we can not raise the sails because both halyards are done. I
believe the jib block is there but nothing for the main sail. Any ideas on how
to climb the mast?
Wondering if those metal shelf brackets that you can get at home depot would
work if you could somehow use self tapping screws to make a ladder to the top of
the mast? Would it be strong enough? Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
Also spent the day clearing out all belongings, getting ready for a refit and
look forward to using some of the ideas I have seen in this group.
Thanks

Mike

Mike sell your boat. You have no business being on the water with ideas like this. Trust me, I've been teaching sailing part time for over 40 years. People with clueless ideas like this are a danger to themselves and others. Get and RV and be safe.

For any real sailors out there. Try using a couple pieces of thin strong line and make loops and attach them to a thick rope halyard with prussic knots. It works but is a bit slow. I've done it. Ascenders might be better but at a higher cost. A mast mate works, although I've never used one. None of this works without a halyard and of course a second one for a safety.
05-14-2012 11:21 AM
rbrasi
...and how was your day?

I went to the Ship's Store here in MDR, where they have a loaner Bos'un chair. I had my dock neighbor hoist me up and I spent an hour or so up there blowing around trying to get my torn jib down. After seeing close up what I had to deal with, I elected to pay a professional the $75/hour to do the serious work, which involves removing the forestay to take the furler down and service it thoroughly. That is the pro in the picture.
05-12-2012 03:56 AM
tweitz
Mast (Climbing)- No Halyards

If the boat is new to you and has not been superbly maintained, there is another concern with climbing the mast. You don't have any idea if the standing rigging is in great shape. When you climb the mast you are putting a lot of weight high up. If a fitting gives way, you could be badly injured even though you never let go of the mast.
05-11-2012 11:28 PM
KnottyGurl
Re: Mast (Climbing)- No Halyards

dropped my mast and found loose rivets in spreader plates, small crack in mast headlight, so was worth the time now drop it.
05-10-2012 07:53 PM
BMLipiec
Re: Mast (Climbing)- No Halyards

Besides the safety issue, it is also beneficial to pull the mast to check for problem areas. Especially if it hasn't been done in awhile. Corrosion and fatigue cracking may be hard to see until you pull the mast to methodically inspect.
Common problem areas: Mast steps, both keel and deck stepped masts, mast attachments for standing rigging, rigging wire and terminals, running rigging blocks and attachment points, electrical connections at the base of the mast as well as to the equipment up top.
When I pulled my mast last year I found that the electrical plug for the mast wiring was almost completely corroded through. How it still worked I have no idea.
Overall, it was a learning experience and worth the $$ and effort.
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