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02-06-2013 10:44 PM
Minnewaska
Re: Keel Bolts

Goodness sakes.

Good luck.
02-06-2013 10:17 PM
Ajay73
Re: Keel Bolts

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Originally Posted by Minnewaska View Post
No, you said......



The help you received was that you were wasting your time. That's the kind of help I would appreciate getting. I have plenty of other things on my list. If you don't want it, I'm good with that. Your post implied you did.
The help I was looking for was about how I was installing the bolts. I wasn't looking for thoughts on whether I'm wasting my time. Never asked if I thought they were needed, did I?
02-06-2013 10:06 PM
Minnewaska
Re: Keel Bolts

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Originally Posted by Ajay73 View Post
I asked about staggering the bolts versus side by side; how far down into the lead to go. The concerns were about the way I was doing it not that I should do it.
No, you said......

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Originally Posted by Ajay73 View Post
.......or have anything to add that would help?
The help you received was that you were wasting your time. That's the kind of help I would appreciate getting. I have plenty of other things on my list. If you don't want it, I'm good with that. Your post implied you did.
02-06-2013 10:02 PM
Ajay73
Re: Keel Bolts

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Originally Posted by hellosailor View Post
There was no lecture. If you feel "lectured" and chastised, perhaps you are beginning to think you were wrong and the chorus right.

You asked a question in a web forum, you can expect to get opinions that differ from your own. When you don't mention that you had a repair professionally done, you can also expect that folks will take you at your word, i.e. that YOU made the repair.

When you find anybody who thinks your keel needs more bolts, anybody at all, just let the rest of us horrid lecturers know how wrong we all are. And of course, all the folks who say your standing rigging would be a priority (insurers among them) must just be out to sell you something.
I see your skills go into psychoanalysis. Feeling wrong. No one is saying I'm wrong. Just that I don't need them. Take a look at your post. You're trying to tell me what I should and should not be doing.

And still you persist. I'm not asking anyone if I need more bolts.

You're the only on who brought up standing rigging. Where did that come from? Just kind of evaluating my boat overall. Any charge for this service?

Mostly I guess you could not really answer the questions so decided just to throw out some words.
02-06-2013 09:54 PM
Ajay73
Re: Keel Bolts

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Originally Posted by Minnewaska View Post
Your original post seemed a little more generic than just asking how to accomplish your mission.

No more lecturing. Knock yourself out on the mod.
I asked about staggering the bolts versus side by side; how far down into the lead to go. The concerns were about the way I was doing it not that I should do it.
02-06-2013 09:12 PM
hellosailor
Re: Keel Bolts

There was no lecture. If you feel "lectured" and chastised, perhaps you are beginning to think you were wrong and the chorus right.

You asked a question in a web forum, you can expect to get opinions that differ from your own. When you don't mention that you had a repair professionally done, you can also expect that folks will take you at your word, i.e. that YOU made the repair.

When you find anybody who thinks your keel needs more bolts, anybody at all, just let the rest of us horrid lecturers know how wrong we all are. And of course, all the folks who say your standing rigging would be a priority (insurers among them) must just be out to sell you something.
02-06-2013 08:59 PM
Minnewaska
Re: Keel Bolts

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Originally Posted by Ajay73 View Post
....Anyone see any concerns or have anything to add that would help?

Thanks for any input.
Your original post seemed a little more generic than just asking how to accomplish your mission.

No more lecturing. Knock yourself out on the mod.
02-06-2013 08:42 PM
SloopJonB
Re: Keel Bolts

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Originally Posted by Ajay73 View Post
When I took out all the wood there was an epoxy-like(hard as a rock) bedding compound(my description) that the plywood was set in, I presume. I never saw the lead, per se. I think I would have recognized the lead. If I would have hit it with a hammer it probably would have sounded like lead though because at that point everything is really well bonded together.
Hit it with a cold chisel - fresh lead is very bright, silvery looking. It sounds more like it was thickened resin that the plywood was set it.
02-06-2013 08:40 PM
Ajay73
Re: Keel Bolts

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Originally Posted by donlofland View Post
No kidding-I chiseled the wood off the gray lead keel! Isn't that what yours looked like? What did your fiberglass look like?

And I thunked it with my hammer and it was solid-I couldn't believe I wasn't looking at fiberglass...I took some Pics I can post later-
When I took out all the wood there was an epoxy-like(hard as a rock) bedding compound(my description) that the plywood was set in, I presume. I never saw the lead, per se. I think I would have recognized the lead. If I would have hit it with a hammer it probably would have sounded like lead though because at that point everything is really well bonded together.
02-06-2013 08:39 PM
SloopJonB
Re: Keel Bolts

here's a chart for bolt torque values by material. 75 Ft/Lbs is very light for a 3/4" bolt. If you look up the S/S chart attached you will see it calls for 130 Ft/Lbs. 5/8" should be at 110 Ft/Lbs.

Steel Bolt Torque Specifications Table - Engineer's Handbook
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