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3 Weeks Ago 07:22 PM
outbound
Re: Lets have a chat about multis.

NEEL trimarans

Sorry got spelled wrong
3 Weeks Ago 11:07 AM
TropicCat
Re: Lets have a chat about multis.

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The Neal would be my first choice as it sails well and is so livable with pretty good access to systems. . Still all are weight sensitive and access for maintenance or repair is problematic when underway. Getting to engine and steering gear in particular.
What's a "Neal"

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All in all multis cruise. Including long range cruising. Once you get over 45-50' they make terribly good sense. Beyond cost of purchase the cost of ownership puts it out of reach for over 90% of the cruising community
I might agree some of this as When I was 30 I was always soakin wet and hard on the wind... at 40 not so much as the little lady needed accommodating and at 50 I was the one in need of accommodating as 'camping' on the water was no longer an option.

Now in my 60's and looking back, I made the right choice going to a catamaran.
3 Weeks Ago 10:24 AM
outbound
Re: Lets have a chat about multis.

Before doing the Outbound we looked into a Catana, Outremer, Neal, Chris White and a Gunboat. The Gunboat was quickly eliminated as out of our price range. The Chris White was just too weird as regards the two masted rotating rig but really liked the layout and helm. Didn't like the inside as with too many multis it seemed too industrial. Instead of being either high up or in weather or both the helm allowed good sight lines and protection which is so much better than the boats with helm elevated over the house.
The Catana and Outremer make more sense. They can actually go to weather, will tract downwind and have a decent offshore sail plan. Problem remains "you take care of a multi- a mono takes care of you". The Neal would be my first choice as it sails well and is so livable with pretty good access to systems. . Still all are weight sensitive and access for maintenance or repair is problematic when underway. Getting to engine and steering gear in particular.
Have close long term friend who sells multis. Put the wife on a tri and sailed around for a week. She didn't like the motion. There are two types of people when it comes to sea sickness. Those who respond to low frequency rolling and those how respond to high frequency jerks. Be real certain which one you and your significant other fall into before cruising on a multi. Wife never gets sea sick but she couldn't time the jerks. Activities of daily living (potty, cooking, showering etc.) were more difficult for her than on a mono. I've raced on multis and have come home black and blue from banging into things. Just clumsy but doesn't happen on monohull passages.
I have trouble with bridgedeck slamming. I have spent to many years on monos so cant sleep when the boat slams. Keep thinking something will break. Seems unavoidable but much less on the C, O or N than any made with fat hulls and fixed keels. Especial those made for the charter market.
All in all multis cruise. Including long range cruising. Once you get over 45-50' they make terribly good sense. Beyond cost of purchase the cost of ownership puts it out of reach for over 90% of the cruising community
3 Weeks Ago 06:14 AM
TropicCat
Re: Lets have a chat about multis.

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And, if fuel were cheaper, I'd bet a whole lot of them would be power cats...

:-)
I figure when I hit 70, and too weak to man the winches, I'll remove the mast...voila, instant multihull trawler.
3 Weeks Ago 06:12 AM
TropicCat
Re: Lets have a chat about multis.

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Hmmmm.. I think that assertion is faulty, based on the simple observation of all the very expensive monos that exist. Presumably, every $250-$500K+ mono is owned by a person that could have afforded a cat if they wanted one, but still chose a mono..
I've been sailing a whole lot of years and have owned a cruising catamaran for more than 10 of them. All my friends own monohulls, and we sail our boats together ... a lot. Sometimes as many as 12 boats. When the anchor drops, guess whose boat is the center of activity? Mine. They all love my boat for her stability and entertaining room, which are the two points I made. Those weren't my views, those were the views of folks who have sailed monohulls for years.
3 Weeks Ago 11:38 PM
JonEisberg
Re: Lets have a chat about multis.

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Seems as if your bringing the CF thread over here! From my experience, the majority of sailboats are used as motor sailers these days.
I couldn't agree more... Monohull, multihull, makes no difference as far as I can see...

;-)
3 Weeks Ago 11:30 PM
smj
Re: Lets have a chat about multis.

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And, if fuel were cheaper, I'd bet a whole lot of them would be power cats...



:-)

Seems as if your bringing the CF thread over here! From my experience, the majority of sailboats are used as motor sailers these days.


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3 Weeks Ago 11:01 PM
JonEisberg
Re: Lets have a chat about multis.

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Sorry, to fast with the fingers! If a similar sized cat cost the same as a mono, there would be a whole lot more multis in the world today.
And, if fuel were cheaper, I'd bet a whole lot of them would be power cats...

:-)
3 Weeks Ago 10:03 PM
smj
Re: Lets have a chat about multis.

Sorry, to fast with the fingers! If a similar sized cat cost the same as a mono, there would be a whole lot more multis in the world today. Truth is, a well designed and built cat costs a heck of a lot more than a well designed and built mono.
3 Weeks Ago 10:00 PM
smj
Re: Lets have a chat about multis.

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Hmmmm.. I think that assertion is faulty, based on the simple observation of all the very expensive monos that exist. Presumably, every $250-$500K+ mono is owned by a person that could have afforded a cat if they wanted one, but still chose a mono.



Different strokes.



For my part, cats simply don't interest me. I hate the aesthetic, and I happen to LIKE the "feel" of a mono, close-hauled and powered-up with her shoulder dug into the sea (yes, I like to go upwind). Sure cats cost more, but even if they didn't and/or money was no object for me, I'd still choose a mono.



That's not to detract from folks who love their cats - I won't try to talk them into a mono. I'm just trying to show that the choice of a mono is not necessary, primarily, or even at all a consideration of cost.

I would agree, there are people that prefer monos over cats. But if a similar
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