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02-10-2013 09:41 PM
TQA
Re: Oh what to do? boat on rocks/reef/sand/mud

On a related topic does anyone else still have a

OCAFCRATS

T shirt.

Brownie points if you know what it stands for. Clue it relates to the Bahamas.
02-10-2013 02:45 PM
MedSailor
Re: Oh what to do? boat on rocks/reef/sand/mud

Quote:
Originally Posted by TQA View Post
OK here is my list. It assumes that I am in passage making mode.

Drop dink and fit OB aprox 200lbs.

Sound the area from dink using oar which is marked with the boat's draft

Layout kedge in direction of deep water and tension using cockpit winches.

Drop both anchors and all chain from bow. 2 x 50lb anchors and 400ft chain 770lbs.

Empty water tanks 150 galls 1200lbs

If it has not refloated the boat would be heeled over using a masthead halyard. [ I would use this strategy earlier if help was on scene or I had crew onboard. ]

The strategy of heeling the boat using a masthead halyard is the key to getting most boats off in my experience. Not bilge keelers or wings though !

In 10 years of liveaboard cruising I have helped in a number of rescues. A call on the VHF often produces a dinghy squadron.
+1. I tried a bunch of stuff and this strategy really works! I also like the idea of dropping the main anchor and chain to reduce weight.

I keep a leadline handy for sounding from the dinghy. I use it all the time.

MedSailor
02-10-2013 10:50 AM
TQA
Re: Oh what to do? boat on rocks/reef/sand/mud

OK here is my list. It assumes that I am in passage making mode.

Drop dink and fit OB aprox 200lbs.

Sound the area from dink using oar which is marked with the boat's draft

Layout kedge in direction of deep water and tension using cockpit winches.

Drop both anchors and all chain from bow. 2 x 50lb anchors and 400ft chain 770lbs.

Empty water tanks 150 galls 1200lbs

If it has not refloated the boat would be heeled over using a masthead halyard. [ I would use this strategy earlier if help was on scene or I had crew onboard. ]

The strategy of heeling the boat using a masthead halyard is the key to getting most boats off in my experience. Not bilge keelers or wings though !

In 10 years of liveaboard cruising I have helped in a number of rescues. A call on the VHF often produces a dinghy squadron.
02-10-2013 03:35 AM
AKscooter
Re: Oh what to do? boat on rocks/reef/sand/mud

If you are the US Navy just tell the authorities to call the embassy ...then wait for salvage operations to cut your boat into tiny pieces......Oh, of course blame the charts....because your seamanship is beyond reproach.
02-07-2013 08:04 PM
Seaduction
Re: Oh what to do? boat on rocks/reef/sand/mud

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Originally Posted by chef2sail View Post
This method can easily drive you further aground if not careful.
Very True! It all depends on the wind direction and knowing the charted depths immediately surrounding the boat. If everything 'clicks' the solution is to heel as much as possible and try to make a 180 turn. You do need some moderate wind (from the right direction) to make it work. In another instance, I've used the heeling approach while motoring a 5 foot draft boat through 4.5 foot depths in and out of the approach to Spring Cove Marina in Rock Hall. Looks a little dare-devilish negotiating that channel with the full jib unfurled.
02-07-2013 07:45 PM
SloopJonB
Re: Oh what to do? boat on rocks/reef/sand/mud

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Originally Posted by jackdale View Post
In my first sailing course the following advise was offered:

When you run aground on Spanish Banks, the first thing you should do is take the largest towel that you have on board and use it to cover your transom.
That demonstrates a guilty conscience. Get off the boat with a brush and start scrubbing the bottom - then it looks intentional and VERY salty - you are "careening" just like Nelson.

P.S. after doing most of my sailing around here, where Spanish Bank is just about the only non-rock bottom anywhere, I have to say that running up on sand or mud hardly qualifies as "running aground" - it's just "rubbing" bottom. If you don't have to do some work on your keel at the next haulout, it doesn't count as a REAL grounding.
02-07-2013 06:50 PM
nolatom
Re: Oh what to do? boat on rocks/reef/sand/mud

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Originally Posted by hallucination View Post
My poor attempt at humor, the only people that have not run aground ever in the Chesapeake are those who ... don't go where you have not been before....

Sorry for the haircut.

Sounds like what I should pick up is either the glow in the dark book, or the The yachtsman's emergency handbook. I done all the ASA classes and none of them really detail well the "Oh S***, moments well enough for my tastes.

Thank you everyone for the replies, seeing that CAT in Nanny Cay really brought things home. It was parked right behind where my boat is docked. The pictures shown here -> 2013 Trip Blog and Diary 2013-02-01 don't do the damage level justice.

robert

I teach Basic Keelboat ASA and I have given lessons on how one goes aground and how one gets off.

Uh, not on purpose though ;-). We draw 6 foot 7, the Lake channels and harbors say they have 8, but not always so.

Have also given lessons on how to tack up the narrow channel when motor won't start, and how to pull youself up said canal by hand when no wind, motor uncooperative, and paddle blade broke (yeah, I know what you're going to say, ha ha, that's what the students said). How to sail into the slip when you have to.

How to wear yourself out trying to start outboard when either fuel valve or deadman's lanyard clip is wrong and you didn't think of that..

What else? How to retrieve a halyard with a makeshift chair, how to pick up real "men overboard" from another "vessel" (jetski) in lumpy weather. How to tow, and be towed. How to ride out a squall.

There may be more. None of this is in the Basic curriculum. But sometimes the best lessons come from the unexpected "teachable moment", even those created by doofus thinking on the part of yours truly, or just bad luck. Or good? Depends on how you look at it.

You'll notice I didn't put this confessional in the "Learning to Sail" topic ;-)
02-07-2013 06:46 PM
chef2sail
Re: Oh what to do? boat on rocks/reef/sand/mud

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Originally Posted by Seaduction View Post
I've also used this method more than once on the Chesapeake Bay.
This method can easily drive you further aground if not careful.
02-07-2013 06:32 PM
jackdale
Re: Oh what to do? boat on rocks/reef/sand/mud

In my first sailing course the following advise was offered:

When you run aground on Spanish Banks, the first thing you should do is take the largest towel that you have on board and use it to cover your transom.
02-07-2013 05:58 PM
Seaduction
Re: Oh what to do? boat on rocks/reef/sand/mud

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Originally Posted by DougSabbag View Post
Besides all the great advice above, considering the vast majority of times I've run aground were when I was using the engine, I will often raise all my sails and use the wind to heel over as much as possible.
That has freed me more than once from a muddy situation!
I've also used this method more than once on the Chesapeake Bay.
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