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02-14-2013 12:03 AM
rgscpat
Re: old sails?

Also, sometimes the used sail shops (Bacon, Minney's, etc.) will have gently used sails for much less than the cost of new.
02-13-2013 07:03 PM
Quester
Re: old sails?

Battens in the pockets - yes - and with the thin end forward.

About that leech line - it can take out a lot of flutter and realistically the reduction in airfoil qualities from the curl it might put in the leech is probably not going to matter much. But be SURE you don't have the leech line tight and then start hauling in on the mainsheet. You don't want several turns of mainsheet pulling against that tiny leech line. Loosen leech line, tighten mainsheet, tighten leech line.

A sailmaker can tell you a lot from the sail even if it's not on the boat. Walk in with it under your arm and chat. Preferably at a slow time if you can tell whan that is so they can put it on the floor.
02-13-2013 06:30 PM
rox33861
Re: old sails?

reach out to the Catalina 22 Fleet 30 at the Grapevine Sailing Club in DFW Texas. someone there can steer you on to some decent sails at a good price. Google the above.
Too many C22's around that you could buy decent sails from. the ones who race replace a sail per year.
02-13-2013 11:26 AM
jrophoff
Re: old sails?

Your sails are probably made from Dracon if they are original. I just sold a 1972 Cal T/2 that had original sails. Dracon sails can last a while if you store them correctly. If the sails are to the point where there is no shape left in them, you can have them rebuilt, Panels replaced, and starched. They will look and act like new for the fraction of the cost.
02-13-2013 10:59 AM
norahs arc
Re: old sails?

This may sound stupid to some but make sure you have all the battens in their pockets. ( I have been sailing for too many years and last year I sailed arround for a week before realising I had not put the top batten in my main - old age is and poor eyesight are a nuisance.)
02-13-2013 10:27 AM
SimonV
Re: old sails?

Quote "Again, having sailed in only 2 boats in my lifetime, and one of those boats being my own, it's hard to say how baggy my sail is. It does LOOK baggy to me though. As mentioned above, even with the outhaul fully tensioned, the sail fully raised, and the vang tensioned, the bottom 10-12 inches or so of the foot looks kinda like a deflated plastic bag. It's like I can't apply enough force anywhere to make that part taut." End Quote.

It sounds like you are not releasing the main sheet or boom vang enough when hoisting the main.
02-13-2013 09:57 AM
Seaduction
Re: old sails?

Topping lift slacked? (if you have one.)
02-13-2013 09:08 AM
Gary3675
Re: old sails?

Is the clew all the way down against the boom. Maybe you are missing a slide and the end of the sail. Just a thought.
02-13-2013 01:41 AM
blakeyoung
Re: old sails?

Thanks to everyone for the replies. I'll try to address as many responses as possible.

My boat is a 1985 Catalina 22. The main does have battens. Now, CURRENTLY one of my battens (2nd from the head) is missing. However, I was having this problem before this batten got lost. How that happened I have no idea. A few weeks ago I took the boat out in some pretty rough winds, and I actually had one of my battens fly out and almost hit me on the head in the cockpit. I replaced it, but I suppose it could have fallen out again in rough winds when I wasn't paying attention and is forever lost. So the fluttering is significantly worse now, but it was still a problem when all the battens were in place.

Now, for the outhaul, cunningham, and traveler. I just noticed today that the sail looked a little slack along the foot, and I was able to pull the clew back quite a few inches with the outhaul. However, this was to no avail to help the fluttering. I do not have a cunningham set up. I do use a traveler, but I usually keep it locked pretty much dead in the center. I would love to post a pic, but I don't have those privileges yet (I don't have my 10 posts).

Again, having sailed in only 2 boats in my lifetime, and one of those boats being my own, it's hard to say how baggy my sail is. It does LOOK baggy to me though. As mentioned above, even with the outhaul fully tensioned, the sail fully raised, and the vang tensioned, the bottom 10-12 inches or so of the foot looks kinda like a deflated plastic bag. It's like I can't apply enough force anywhere to make that part taut.

It doesn't look like I have a leech line. The only lines anywhere near the clew are the outhaul and reefing line. Maybe I can do some searching around for a DIY leech line as was suggested.

There are several members of a local sailing club whom I have met, so if I run into them I might get their input as well.
02-12-2013 10:24 PM
Faster
Re: old sails?

Quote:
Originally Posted by blakeyoung View Post
I recently bought a 1985 Catalina, and I'm fairly certain that the sails I have are the originals. No matter how much I trim in or let out the sails and no matter what direction the wind is coming from, the leech of my mainsail always flutters. I am new to sailing, so I don't know if this is normal. Is this the sign of an old, worn out, and stretched sail that needs to be replaced?
... maybe a stupid question... but do you have all the battens in???
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