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02-14-2013 11:30 AM
hellosailor
Re: Question for experienced boat owners/sailors

And a highly-recommended boat monkey,not just someone from Merry Maids. That propane bottle, rusting away and feeding two long lines into the boat, to what look like two old bbqs (instead of an oven) plus a bare gas lantern?! That's scary.

OTOH there's probably a lot of small stuff that could be mistaken for garbage, which should be kept, bt would need to be cleaned and stacked. Surely there's a local broker who is smart enough to do the whole job, hire the monkey, sell the boat, make things easier for a remote owner?

But seeing the propane tank, I'd suggest speed, before the USCG or someone notices and declares the vessel to be a danger, then hauls it away. Or some seacock or hose gives way, and the boat becomes an expensive salvage bill instead of a small sale.
02-14-2013 10:55 AM
svHyLyte
Re: Question for experienced boat owners/sailors

Frankly, cosmetics make a world of difference. I suggest you hire a local boat monkey to clean the boat up and get rid of the trash, bird poop and especially the Propane bottle on deck. Get the hoses out of the boat. The device in the galley range bay is a reasonably costly bbq grill and you'll want to keep that. Get the trash out of the interior and have your BM wash down the woodwork, dry it and wipe it down with lemon oil. Likewise have him use a shop vac (he'll need a small portable generator) to suck-up the rust from the engine compartment. Rust is deceptive and is roughly 600% the volume of the iron consumed so it is frequently less problematic than it looks. I suggest you also contact a local diver and have him give the bottom a scrub and get rid of the "beard". By investing a few thousand dollars in clean-up and minor repair you can likely salvage many times that. The boat needs work and some young local that can pick her up for $15,000-20,000 or so could, with a little elbow grease, have her back in shape in short order. (If your relative had a shore side residence or storage locker, I suspect you'll find a lot of what appear to be missing boat parts--locker doors, sails, and the like.) This boat has real potential and could be a diamond in the rough for someone, especially with the self-steering gear).

FWIW...
02-13-2013 08:00 PM
capttb
Re: Question for experienced boat owners/sailors

If it wasn't an Orion it would be worthless, as it appears your best hope would be a very optimistic person, who is dedicated to finding a "bargain" bluewater boat to restore. Some very questionable modifications have been made which make all sytems on the boat kinda questionable.
I would expect $10,000 at the most and maybe be happy with half.
It will cost more to restore than it's market value I fear.
I'm real sorry I can't be more optimistic.
02-13-2013 05:33 PM
Alex W
Re: Question for experienced boat owners/sailors

The PS Orion is a very well regarded and nice boat. That one looks like it could use a good amount of work. It actually looks like it was being overhauled at some point, and then was abandoned. That is going to make it less attractive for most buyers. Hiring a surveyor would help you figure out actual value.

A friend recently bought one in much nicer condition (and with better equipment) for $45k, so I worry that some of the estimates that you are seeing in this thread are on the high side.
02-13-2013 04:56 PM
ashtwk
Re: Question for experienced boat owners/sailors

Here is a link to some photos, please let me know what you think of it's condition, and possible resale value. I appreciate it!

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02-13-2013 04:02 PM
Faster
Re: Question for experienced boat owners/sailors

Join Photobucket.com, upload your pictures there and paste the IMG CODE link option into a post here... that way we can all see the pictures.

You may well have a real asset there..
02-13-2013 03:49 PM
ashtwk
Re: Question for experienced boat owners/sailors

If anyone in the San Diego area that knows a lot about boats would like to go look at it, I would like that just to see what they think it would be worth. I also have some pictures that I could send of the condition of the boat, if there is anyone willing to take a look at them and give me their opinion. Thanks!
12-05-2012 06:45 PM
sailortjk1
Re: Question for experienced boat owners/sailors

1. How do we know it is a project boat?
2. Maybe he doesn't know how much he loves sailing until he tries. He has a great head start.
3. Started our two girls at 18 months. Nothing wrong with it.

This could turn into a real "What If."
What if I had done that when I was younger, than all of the sudden life passes you by.
12-05-2012 04:59 PM
MarkofSeaLife
Re: Question for experienced boat owners/sailors

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Originally Posted by sailortjk1 View Post

Second, you said you were in Ohio and had no use for it, but I have to tell you, She would make a great Erie Boat.
I couldn't think of a worst thing to give. A thirty year old project boat to a person who can't sail and has no interest in it, plus has a baby to take care of.

Please help the guy out by getting it off his hands and mind for the best price he can get.
12-05-2012 04:21 PM
CBinRI
Re: Question for experienced boat owners/sailors

I can't see a substitute for hiring a reputable boat broker in San Diego and having them list the boat for you. Even a good boat like yours will likely not sell immediately, unless you are willing to take the lower range of its estimated value. The key to this sale process going smoothly is finding a good and honest broker. They are out there but you must research them thoroughly.
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