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02-20-2013 11:26 AM
JimMcGee
Re: Charter contract

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Originally Posted by chucklesR View Post
It's a normal clause.

Check what your insurance covers too - most policies only cover topsides i.e. if you run aground it's on your nickel.
That's an interesting point. I'm wondering if there's a rider I can get through BoatUS for charter coverage.

If offered I imagine it would have a lot to do with where you're chartering.
02-20-2013 09:24 AM
Silvio
Re: Charter contract

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Originally Posted by sony2000 View Post
Nothing is written in stone. Write in the destination port by 2/3 of rental, and initial it. It they accept, they initial it. And Bobs is your oncle.
You reminded me of my favorite law school professor who would cross out the disclaimers on the back of his airline tickets, knowing that the ticketing clerk would not look or care what he did. He said that something to argue in court is better than than nothing to go in with.
02-18-2013 10:28 PM
alex_sauvage
Update on Charter contract

Well, I have searched the Net carefully, and it seems that this clause (Point of return reached in 1/3 of the charter period) is indeed a standard one at least in this area of Greece (Saronic Gulf). Every contract form I was able to find on line from charter companies in that region have this clause.
Just want to let people who are planning to charter boat in Greece know that they have to plan accordingly. Not sure how enforceable this clause is in the best case scenario, but it seems to be tided up with the boat insurance. So if you break that clause and something happens with the boat, the boat insurance is void and everything is on your dime. That can be an expensive proposition
02-15-2013 04:45 PM
alex_sauvage
Re: Charter contract

Quote:
Originally Posted by chucklesR View Post
You as in the charter policy (may) only cover damage to topsides - i.e. running around and dropping stuff.
Damage below the water line might not be covered at all. I've seen it both ways.
This is very good point. So this how it looks:

Owner has: "to insure the Yacht and her equipment against fire, marine and collision risks and third party damage and against any and all loss or damage in excess of 2.000€
and the charterer shall therefore be relieved of any and all liability which is covered by the said Policy, provided that such loss or damage is not caused or contributed to
by any act of cross negligence or willful default on his part.
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So I guess it depends what constitutes "act of cross negligence or willful default". I am curious how you read it?
02-15-2013 04:38 PM
chucklesR
Re: Charter contract

You as in the charter policy (may) only cover damage to topsides - i.e. running around and dropping stuff.
Damage below the water line might not be covered at all. I've seen it both ways.
02-15-2013 04:11 PM
johnnyquest37
Re: Charter contract

I've not see anything like that before - not that I've chartered extensively. Every charter that I have done, I just had to get the boat back to the marina by a certain time. They left it up to me to figure out how to do that.
02-15-2013 04:07 PM
alex_sauvage
Re: Charter contract

Quote:
Originally Posted by chucklesR View Post
It's a normal clause.

Check what your insurance covers too - most policies only cover topsides i.e. if you run aground it's on your nickel.
You as in total boat insurance (presumably provided by the charter company) or insurance on deductible?
02-15-2013 03:25 PM
chucklesR
Re: Charter contract

It's a normal clause.

Check what your insurance covers too - most policies only cover topsides i.e. if you run aground it's on your nickel.
02-15-2013 02:02 PM
alex_sauvage
Re: Charter contract

Thanks guys!
I would rather not sleep on board, but it seems almost impossible to charter a boat for anything rather than whole week(s). Adding sight-seeing will extend our trip beyond reasonable. And considering jet-lag, I would rather be sight-seeing jetlaged than sailing. But it is an option. I might try changing timing in the contract as have been suggested and see how it will go.
I am just curious if somebody seen that clause before?
02-15-2013 01:51 PM
sony2000
Re: Charter contract

Nothing is written in stone. Write in the destination port by 2/3 of rental, and initial it. It they accept, they initial it. And Bobs is your oncle.
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