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02-23-2013 09:38 PM
SloopJonB
Re: What to do with my old spinnaker?

Dropping it on your boat should be very easy - that big sliding hatch in the middle of the cabin top on Formosa 41's is perfect for it - blow the tack and then one person eases the halyard while the other sits by the hatch and gathers it in behind the main and stuffs it down the hatch.
02-23-2013 04:40 PM
vtsailguy
Re: What to do with my old spinnaker?

Quote:
Originally Posted by MedSailor View Post
Currently I don't have a spinnaker halyard so adding that, plus a sock, plus sheets, plus extras will add up to something for a project that "may" not work.
I was in the exact same place. What I did to test the concept was to drop the mainsail and use the "wrong" end of the main halyard (the end you normally pull) to fly the spinnaker.

All I had to do was stick a block off my masthead bail and I could test this out before investing in a spin halyard.
02-23-2013 04:32 PM
MedSailor
Re: What to do with my old spinnaker?

Thanks all who contributed. As usual, I have learned a lot!

I love the idea of using the perrel bead collar and flying it like an A-sail but I would want to use a sock so that we could effectively douse the beast when needed. I am also concearned that the sail is likely a big-shouldered deep runner and it just might not like being flown like an A-sail, perrel bead collar or not.

Currently I don't have a spinnaker halyard so adding that, plus a sock, plus sheets, plus extras will add up to something for a project that "may" not work. I think what I'll do is improvise a tack line and bead collar and try the sail out a couple times from the jib halyard (I'll watch for chafe) before spending the time and money on making/buying all the rigging needed to make this work.

Since the sail is "big and scary" and I won't have a sock to snuff it with, these initial trials will be on days when the boys are out sailing the boat and the girls are somewhere else. That way if we end up with a line SNAFU and a knockdown it will be just a BFS to brag about and a learning experience rather than become LINE 1 of my new alimony agreement.

MedSailor
02-19-2013 02:43 AM
jimgo
Re: What to do with my old spinnaker?

You can always call Minnie's Yacht Surplus in Costa Mesa, CA if you decide to get rid of it. Not sure what they'll pay for it, but I'm 80%certain they'd buy it.
02-18-2013 05:55 PM
knuterikt
Re: What to do with my old spinnaker?

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Originally Posted by svHyLyte View Post
If you're really worried about that, one way to "blow the tack" is to simply connect the tack of the sail to the parrel bead collar with a snap shackle and connect the snap shackle pin to a "rip cord" that you lead back to the cockpit outside the life-lines. Attach a big grab ring or handle to the cockpit end and, in extremis, one good snatch will blow the tack and put paid to a knock-down.
You beat me on this

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Originally Posted by svHyLyte View Post
My pressure relief system is my (much) better half. She does most of the driving while I do the line handling and muscle work and, at the point when she says "I'm feeling nervous", we blow the tack and bag the sail. It's worked for us, eh?

FWIW...
As if had written it my self, we do it the same way.
Both with regards to driving the boat and reducing sail

As I like to have may wife go sailing with me, this is one way to keep the wife comfortable.
02-18-2013 05:42 PM
GeorgeB
Re: What to do with my old spinnaker?

Med, I think what you are describing is a light air runner type kite. .5 oz is pretty light for your size boat and the sail probably has a wind range of 5 – 15 kts max true wind. A mid seventies construction could also mean a radial head (or older) design which is also make it dated and probably only good for really deep wind angles. That, and the fact that nylon isn’t UV stabilized means sell it for whatever you can get. The amount of rigging you would need to purchase probably doesn’t make it worthwhile (like, if the sail blows up after a couple of uses). Also flying that runner like it is an A-kite will be a lesson in frustration. Attaching the clew to the head stay will make the rounded, windward shoulder want to do a vicious head stay wrap and if you try to fly it at the hotter, A-kite angles, you will find yourself sailing on your ear a lot. Sell it on Craig’s List I am sure with all the cruising boats up there, someone will want it.
02-18-2013 05:14 PM
MedSailor
Re: What to do with my old spinnaker?

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Originally Posted by zz4gta View Post
Make a purse for the g/f out of some scrap. .
Thanks for the suggestion but the wife would kill me if she found out!

MedSailor
02-18-2013 02:31 PM
zz4gta
Re: What to do with my old spinnaker?

I cut up my old mainsail to make a shower curtain out of it. Looks pretty good. Make a purse for the g/f out of some scrap. Might make another bag or two. Unfortunately it had to be hand stitched due to the thickness of the material.
02-18-2013 01:33 PM
SloopJonB
Re: What to do with my old spinnaker?

Two people, especially if one is nervous, are not really enough to fly a big chute like yours. We use two for the sail and one on the helm. One winches the sail up and sheets it in while the other jumps the halyard and keeps things clear on the foredeck. On take down, we blow the tack and let the sail stream alongside. One eases the halyard so the sail just floats out flat over the water while the other gathers it in from the lee cabintop and stuffs it down the hatch. After a couple of times the sail doesn't even get any wet spots.

If you have a snuffer you could probably do it with two but I wouldn't if you're setting it and retrieving it loose.
02-18-2013 10:56 AM
svHyLyte
Re: What to do with my old spinnaker?

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Originally Posted by MedSailor View Post
...

My wife really is afraid of spinnakers and their power to capsize. It's entirely my fault because of the stories I've told, but there it is. One idea I came up with tonight, is to tie the Parrel bead collar, the sail's tack, and the tack-line, all together with a loop of light line. If the line is of the appropriately light breaking strength then when the boat starts to broach the line would break, thereby automatically releasing the tack, before the boat really broached or the sail ripped. Seems like a nice, easy, safety mechanism to me and the wife really approved of the idea of an automatic safety valve for preventing capsize. ...

MedSailor
If you're really worried about that, one way to "blow the tack" is to simply connect the tack of the sail to the parrel bead collar with a snap shackle and connect the snap shackle pin to a "rip cord" that you lead back to the cockpit outside the life-lines. Attach a big grab ring or handle to the cockpit end and, in extremis, one good snatch will blow the tack and put paid to a knock-down.

In our case, we simply don't use the sail when the true wind is much over 15 knots or apparent wind over 10. (Note, however, that the apparent wind will increase, and shift forward, as the yacht slows during the take-down. assuming one has been running off to some degree.) My pressure relief system is my (much) better half. She does most of the driving while I do the line handling and muscle work and, at the point when she says "I'm feeling nervous", we blow the tack and bag the sail. It's worked for us, eh?

FWIW...
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