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02-28-2013 03:18 PM
niftynickers
Re: Water damage to cabin sole

The water damage that you write about could also be the result of a leaking lid on the front water tank.The factory lid was plywood with a gelcoat surface on the the tank inside.Those tank lids rot and leak causing water to leak under the vee berth cushion and then to run down onto the sole in front of the head door.In my experience water running down the wire chase from the mast does not appear on the sole but rather runs down the compression post and rots the comp.post in the bilge.That is one of the things you or your surveyor should be looking for.
As the owner of an older C37 I'm intimately acquainted with both problems.

Dianne and Chuck Burke S/V NiftyNickers C37 #139
02-27-2013 11:58 AM
MarcHall
Re: Water damage to cabin sole

So if you are correct that the water entered thru the hatches over the forward berth and the salon I would tend to believe that water settled out on the sole and then worked its way into the bilges and was pumped out if the bilge pump(s) were active.

I have recently sprayed a lot of water into the boat while cleaning areas of teak prior to its first coat of varnish. It collects on the sole but ultimately finds its way into the bilge. So its quite possible that the only damage is what you have seen.

The interior of the Pacific Seacraft Crealock 37s are built on an internal liner, the settees and cabinets are all fiberglass so a sole replacement is actually quite straightforward when compared to many boats.

Marc Hall
Crazy Fish, Crealock 37, Hull 207
San Diego
02-27-2013 09:39 AM
TeakGuyFL
Re: Water damage to cabin sole

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Originally Posted by sweetb60 View Post
We are looking at a PS 37 that has visible water damage to the cabin sole. The access panels over the fuel tank are warped and have to be pried up to look beneath. The edges of the sole around the panels are discolored and there are some soft spots. There is also a wet wood strip directly in front of the head. Damage does not appear to extend under the settees ( but not 100% sure of that). Both hatches (salon and v-berth) leak. This appears to be the water source which caused the damage. Is replacing the cabin sole feasible? Not knowing the extent of the damage (under the settees, etc) should we run away as fast as we can? Can anyone recommend a craftsman/woodworker or yard on the east Florida coast (Stuart,Fl) who could give us an educated opinion on the current condition and cost to repair?

My name is Chase I dont know how much I can speak about what I do, but I assure you I can help with your issue. If you can kindly give me a call or a email I will definitely help out.

Thanks so much for giving me a chance.
Rgds,
Chase
ChaseWPP at GMail dot com
five six one 8 four O O five 0 0
02-24-2013 12:26 PM
jnewcomer
Re: Water damage to cabin sole

Regarding water coming down the mast: LeFiell has a good solution for this. We purchased a new mast step from them last year for $50 (jpg attached). It has drain holes, a proper standpipe and comes painted with LP. Talk to Rodney at LeFiell for details.

Getting the nuts off the bolts for the mast step and SS plate is another story.

John
s/v Pelagic
1980 C37 Yawl #22
02-23-2013 10:26 PM
sweetb60
Re: Water damage to cabin sole

Thanks for the input. Raindog, good to know about the extent of the sole (which was confirmed during a conversation my husband had with Thumper at PSC) Alan, We will also look further into the mast/wiring harness issue. There was no evidence that water had intruded to the point that the engine was affected. However, it is showing its age. Knowing we would be looking at older boats with age issues, we allowed for repowering in the budget. Lots of other cosmetic issues, but the owner is willing to negotiate with someone who will care about the boat and give her some TLC. That's us! We know there are lots of boats out there, but we are really sold on the features of this boat. Barring any nasty surprises at the survey, we hope to become happy owners of a soon to be beautiful again PS37! Thanks again to all who responded. This forum has been a good source of info as we were researching the boat.
02-20-2013 04:00 PM
chuck53
Re: Water damage to cabin sole

It's the damage you can't see that scares me. I'd walk. Too many boats out there without these issues.
02-20-2013 03:18 PM
RainDog
Re: Water damage to cabin sole

Quote:
Originally Posted by sweetb60 View Post
Damage does not appear to extend under the settees ( but not 100% sure of that).
On the PS boats, the sole does not extend under any furniture. All the furniture is part of a fiberglass pan that is bonded directly to the hull. The sole is also sitting on a fiberglass pan. Replacing the sole will not require removing any furniture.
02-20-2013 03:03 PM
Alannc44
Re: Water damage to cabin sole

I had, what sounds like, a very similar leak. It turned out to be water filling up the inside of the mast (from trickling in from halyard lines) and then overflowing through the eye where the wiring harness goes down the center of the mast into the cabin. That little strip of wood was the give-away. Once I removed that I could see how the water followed the wiring harness. Since I keep my boat in Washington, NC PSC fixed it immediately. (There wasn't much damage to mine as I caught it pretty quickly). The long term solution is to drill two weep holes into the bottom of the mast in order to let the mast drain. This seems to be a common problem for a lot of people on many brands of boats. The wiring harness comes up through a short section of pvc pipe. The top where the wires comes through is usually plugged to prevent water from passing below, but you know how that goes over time. At any rate, who wants a mast full of water? ~Alan
02-20-2013 09:03 AM
wsmurdoch
Re: Water damage to cabin sole

By the time water is over the cabin sole, it is also over the oil fill on the engine, the dampner plate in the bell housing, and the vent on the clutch. You may have lots of price leverage with this boat. Use it wisely and you may have a real deal.

Bill Murdoch
1988 PSC 34
Irish Eyes
02-20-2013 03:15 AM
jimgo
Re: Water damage to cabin sole

I agree with Faster, I'd keep looking. Depending on where and how the hatches are leaking, there may be issues on the deck surrounding the hatches, such as soft spots. If the leaks weren't causing so much damage to the interior, it might be worth the risk (and might be worth the cost of a survey or renting of a moisture meter). But you'll need to entirely fix the hatch leaks before you fix the cabin sole, and if you haven't budgeted for those repairs (including their impact on your usage of the boat), you may be in for a big surprize. If she's an otherwise remarkable boat, or a fa tastic deal, then maybe. Otherwise, keep looking.
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