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2 Weeks Ago 07:55 PM
Robes
Re: BVI chart/nav app

Quote:
Originally Posted by Minnewaska View Post
How was the trip?.
I can't believe I never got back to comment on the trip... I put together a web page to tell the story, so if you'd like see: 2013 BRITISH VIRGIN ISLANDS

04-21-2013 02:46 AM
Minnewaska
Re: BVI chart/nav app

Quote:
Originally Posted by Robes View Post
BVI... minus 1 day!!
How was the trip?.
04-06-2013 12:43 PM
kellysails
Re: BVI chart/nav app

Have fun! Sooooooooo envious.

BTW - I always bring my own roll of duct tape, amazing what you can fix with duct tape. The idea here is to not involve the charter company on small fixes. It takes a lot of time for them to come out and meet you. I usually call them first to let them know what I am fixing. A cell phone will come with the boat.
04-06-2013 01:15 AM
Robes
Re: BVI chart/nav app

Thank you all-

Great advise from everyone.

And KELLYSAILS, awesome trip report, so close to what I have planned.., great read!

Thanks everyone, I maybe over planned but for that reason I'll be able to kick back, knowing all bases covered. I really appreciated all the feedback-

BVI... minus 1 day!!
04-05-2013 05:49 PM
kellysails
Re: BVI chart/nav app

To be very straight on this topic:

The BVI is maybe the easiest (by far) place to sail. Anywhere in the US is far more challenging. Maybe, just maybe, the Adriadic side of Greece "might" be easier, but it is close. Certainly a sailors paradise. Really don't fret, simply enjoy and explore. Line of sight is standard nav method here. Someone very high up had sailors in mind when the BVI was created. And the good natured BVI government had the initiative to improved upon that. Hard to go wrong here. Anegada is slightly challenging but any overnight sail, say in the Puget Sound, is far more difficult.

For God's sake, they even put 6 foot painters on all their mooring balls rather than the idiotic 2 inch diameter eye standard on all PNW balls. The Moore Secure company even tests/inspects each mooring ball every year in the BVI, yes, they do that. In the PNW I would never stay on a ball above 20kts.

Enjoy, and don't fret. Too often too many people over think their adventure in the BVI. It is brain dead simple. I wish someone told me that on my first trip there long ago.
04-05-2013 05:22 PM
SteveInMD
Quote:
Originally Posted by Robes View Post
Hey People, I'm leaving this Sunday for Tortolla...!

My first real charter, not counting my Chesapeake Bay charter. I got the GPS "Oregon" all loaded with daily routes and multiple alternative routes and anchorages for each of the 10 days. Got my Imray & BVIPirate Anagada approach charts.

Some final questions:
1) When we leave Anegada we will immediately head to the North Drop to fish, troll, while heading to JVD-Green Cay. I'm accounting for the current on the passage to Anegada from the North Sound near the horse shoe reef. Question, is there any appreciable current when sailing the North Drop from the western tip of Anegada to JVD?

2) I know I'll be briefed on this but want to be prepared. I found that Yacht Club Costa Smeralda claims to have a "first" pump out station in the BVI. This place is new? How do you return the boat if there is no place to pump out? Do you really pump out into those local waters? No 6 mile rule here? The boats have macerators etc?

3) My Conch boat claims to have an inverter, in it's description. Yet I see elsewhere in the Conch website that you can rent inverters, so who knows what I got till I get there. Anyway, if I do have an inverter (I'll ask Conch specifics) I never used one, do you only use it while the engine is running to charge the boat batteries? Have to turn it on or just plug personal electronics chargers into outlets in boat when engine is running?

TIA
Robes
I was just there two weeks ago, on a boat from Conch.

Most places you stop will have shore facilities. Try to plan ahead and use them. Some boats have gravity drain waste tanks. The heads on those boats always pump through the tanks and out. You can close the dump seacocks when you are in a harbour, and then open them the next day when you are sailing once you are 1/2 mile from shore. (the rule there is 1/2 mile not 6) Not all boats are set up this way but they should be. Ask Conch about your boat.

I left my inverter and fridge on all week. The fridge was frosty and cell phones were charged. I ran the motor charging batteries 2 hours a day and we never dropped below 12 volts on the house batteries.

If you need a cab call Sebastians. Call ahead of your arrival and they will be waiting for you. They were much less than the other guys and very reliable.

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04-05-2013 04:47 PM
kellysails
Re: BVI chart/nav app

A couple of quick BVI factoids. I have been there numerous times, what an awesome place!

1. If you are going to do Anegada you should pick up Walker's Anegada chart. Very nice and extremely reliable.
http://shop.bvipirate.com/anegchart.html

2. Here is my trip report from 2010, that might help some:
BVIPirate - View topic - BVI trip report May 2010

So very incredibly envious, have a great time. It really is all line of sight nav. Don't fret, it is as easy as they come. Dang, I wish I was going.

Freezing my ass in the PNW is getting quite old.
04-05-2013 03:59 PM
Robes
Re: BVI chart/nav app

I have an Oregon 450 usage question.

Say I have a 5 point route for day 1. Lets say I want to jump into the route midway at point 3, skipping the 1st two waypoints of the route. Do I have to delete the 1st two waypoints, or when I get close to the 3rd point will the Oregon simply sense it's location and then resume to follow the remainder of the route?

I guess similarly, eg. a 7 point route. I start & complete the 1st two waypoints of the route but decide to skip a loop around an island (points 3 & 4), I want to go to point #5(and follow the route to completion) after reaching point #2. Can I start heading toward point #5 (would the Oregon see #5 when in close range to it & take you from there?) or do I have to delete points #3 & 4?

TIA
04-03-2013 08:05 PM
hallucination
Re: BVI chart/nav app

Inverters on Conch can be all over the place. there are the CIG-lighter-12v versions....all the way up to 3000+ inverters. some can charge a phone, some can dry your girls hair and toast bread mix margaritas in the blender!

remember that when not used, inverters have VERY high parasitic loads, turn off when not needed.

running the engine, making sure the ALT is excited, will not cause you distress with the INV on. Leaving the INV on, and the engine OFF can cause all sorts of interesting discoveries.

Like...if you set an offset on your depth gauge...and it is "protected" by a 10 year old cr2013 battery, and your battery drop below 12v...bye bye offset...hello keel"

yes...lessonlearned....phuque!
04-03-2013 07:10 AM
Minnewaska
Re: BVI chart/nav app

Quote:
Originally Posted by Robes View Post
....all loaded with daily routes and multiple alternative routes and anchorages for each of the 10 days.
I hope you have a great time and I'm sure you will. As some of us have already said, you may be over planning this trip. You just can't bake in a fixed plan. Weather, sea condition, boat condition, your condition, all factor into what you will do from day to day. Go with it. Enjoy. Don't set an expectation for yourself that you will do everything you plan. It's a different pace down there. Forcing your entire itinerary could ruin your vacation. You may not get it all in. You'll love it anyway!

Quote:
....Question, is there any appreciable current when sailing the North Drop from the western tip of Anegada to JVD?
Other than a few short cuts between islands, I've never found ocean current to be all that significant in BVI. Even at a short peak down SFDC, I think its barely a knot.

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.....How do you return the boat if there is no place to pump out? Do you really pump out into those local waters?
You are not supposed to dump in the harbors, but everyone dumps in all water outside the harbor. For all the rhetoric on how crowded it is there, its really very relative, there aren't many boats compared to popular US sailing grounds. Its just looks like there are in this remote place and there are many more than a decade ago.

Compared to the size of the ocean and its complete flushing by ocean current, there is no way that effluent dropped even 1/10th of a mile offshore, is polluting anything. There is more sealife putting waste into the water and carcasses dying and rotting, that you'll ever put in it.

I'm sure that will offend someone and I have no interest in the debate. The boats do have holding tanks that are usually gravity discharged, so you can sail as far off shore as you like. Return the boat with anything in the tank at all and you'll pay a fine for them to empty it, as they can't do so in the harbor.

Quote:
3) .....if I do have an inverter (I'll ask Conch specifics) I never used one, do you only use it while the engine is running to charge the boat batteries? Have to turn it on or just plug personal electronics chargers into outlets in boat when engine is running?
If there is an invertor, it is likely to be one that runs a single 110v outlet and has its own on/off switch. When you flip the switch, it will convert 12v DC in your house bank to 110v AC at that outlet. For very minor draws, like charging a cell phone, you don't have to run the engine. But for anything of significance, like a toaster or hair dryer, you will be instructed to have the motor running so its alternator can replace charge to the house bank, as the invertor is draining it.

You will need to run your motor approx 3 hours per day anyway to keep the banks charged. Motor sailing counts, otherwise, 60 to 90 mins each morning and night are a ritual. You'll find it just as easy to use the invertor during those periods, if you have a use for it.

Have a great trip !!!!!!!
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