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03-06-2013 03:22 AM
Skol
Re: Small Boat for Solo Sailing

I think a Cal 20 meets your criteria. Inexpensive, tough, and you should be able to find plenty of them for sale in SoCal. Lots of info on the net about this famous little wonder - check it out!
02-27-2013 11:30 PM
MedSailor
Re: Small Boat for Solo Sailing

Nice contribution Paul. Welcome to SailNet!

MedSailor
02-27-2013 10:10 AM
PaulnNathalie
Re: Small Boat for Solo Sailing

I'm going to go for broke and make what I think is an excellent reccomnedation: From everything you want, it seems like an Alberg22 would be your best bet. here's why:

1. It has the reputation of being one of the toughest boats of it's class. I can atest to that fact. I once own one. I ran her aground on several occasions and the only thing I ever did was chip the gell coat around the bottom of her keel.

2. The Alberg22 was built by a company in Bellville Ontario. They started building them back when boats were transitioning from wood to fibreglass. They were unsure of the real structural strength of fibreglass back in them days, so they went with the original hull thickness for wood. The thinest area I ever found on that boat was 3/4" thick.

3. Even though she's a full keel, she's trailerable. Most of them come with a trailer when you purchase it. She's got 3 ft of draft. most areas got a tidal range of that much. I used to back mine down the slipway and wait for the tide to pick her up. you might even be lucky enough to have enough range to put her back on the trailer the same way. (very much cheaper then hoisting her)

4. The full keel is great for singling as well. Very easy to heave to.

5. lots of ballest ratio. she's a 3800 lb boat with 2000 lbs of iron in her keel.

6. She's designed on the old style of sailboat. Lots of rocker in her. This makes her a very seaworthy self sailing kind of boat. Lashing the tiller and letting her look after herself while you make a trip to the heads or whatever was a breeze. She ballances herself well.

7. Even though she's "old style" she's unbelievably fast. I know I'll be called a liar for this, but I one got 8.5 kts out of her (which is about 3 kts more then her hull speed).

8. She's got big sail area for her size. With a simple reefing system this enables you to fine tune her to what conditions are prevailing.

So if she was so good....then why did I sell her? My sig other wanted a bigger boat. But we were so impressed with her handling we said would wanted to buy one with the same hull design. And we did. A Cheoy Lee os 40.

The only thing I ever could complian about when it came to the alberg was that you could not stand full height down in her cabin. After a few days, this starts to become annoying.

I really don't recomend a centerboarder if you plan to spend more then a day in her yourself. Plus, being single handed, a center boarder reacts a little to quickly for one person. Beam seas can get a little dangerous.

As regards for reefing, if you're single handed, roller furling on the jib is almost a must. BUT!! don't go with anything besides simple jiffy reefing on the main. The less mechanical and complicated it is, the better off you are. Nothing can ever go wrong with Jiffy reefing.
Keep your rigging as simple as possible. Not only does it make sense, but when something does let go, you are very able to make repairs by yourself. The more stuff you got on deck and in the air the more tangles you're going to have. I learned that the hard way.
Here's one last piece of advice: Put some good thought into your ground tackle. Don't skimp on it. Most people do. All of my sailing has been pretty much confined to North of 40 degrees. Pretty rough sometimes. a good anchoring system has saved my ass a few times. It gives you good piece of mind in the middle of the night when you're lying in your bunk and you hear the wind comming up as well. Have two anchors on board at all times, with separate rhodes ready to go for each of them. An OVERSIZED Danforth (good overall anchors) for the primary, with a good chain and rhode combo. I don't mean 20 or 30 ft of chain either. Go big. The secondary, in my opinion, should be a Grapnel. They're really good for rocky bottoms. Good holding ability. The only problem with them is they're a bitch to store. You can make one out of rebar.
Although I may be laughed at, I'm going to advise you to carry enough rhode for both that you have the ability of going to a 1:9 ratio if need be. To some that may be a little extreme. But you're singling, so you can't have to much rope. in an emergency you can fling it all out the stern in a big knoted pile and use it as warps for a pretty damn good sea anchor.

I hope this helps.
02-23-2013 10:49 PM
jimgo
Re: Small Boat for Solo Sailing

Wow, that's a sweet little boat!
02-23-2013 04:52 PM
theonecalledtom
Re: Small Boat for Solo Sailing

Pogo, the mini sailing as an one design sailboat.
02-22-2013 12:22 PM
CapnBilll
Re: Small Boat for Solo Sailing

I'm having a good time on an Aquarius 23' They are readily available, and cheap.

900lbs lead sole for self righting, and steel centerboard for shallows. fairly stable boat, and easy to singlehand.
02-22-2013 09:26 AM
Hudsonian
Re: Small Boat for Solo Sailing

Shumway Marine - Ideal 18 Sailboats
02-21-2013 07:14 PM
Philzy3985
Re: Small Boat for Solo Sailing

I know a true sailor who went from larger 30'-40' sailboats to a Potter 19' (maybe 17) and hated it. It's not for everyone, especially if you want some excitement.

Honestly you probably won't go out sailing in conditions "un safe" for a centerboard boat, plus towing it and pulling it around the dock with dock lines and keeping the bottom clean and righting (which would probably never need to happen) are all better with a centerboard boat. It's not like the sailboat just flops over, many are designed to point into the wind if the keel busts out of the water, rather than capsizing.

If you are serious about this, and not just asking another broad question, because you are in southern california and close to Long Beach, newport, Dana Point, Marina Del Rey, then I'd say it a Catalina Capri 14.2 or Coronado 15 (less money) or a Catalina 16.5 (a lot more money) or a Hobie 18 like you brought up in your other thread, or a Flying Scot (19 foot, huge cockpit, can be raced, can be comfortable sailed)

Just go buy something and start sailing.
02-21-2013 06:28 PM
MedSailor
Re: Small Boat for Solo Sailing

Painting a hull dark blue adds $100K to the price. Seriously, check it out, it must be some kind of rule! This rule applies to powerboats as well.

Just look at the Hinckley "picnic boats". A quarter million dollar picnic boat. Really?

1998 Hinckley Picnic Boat Power Boat For Sale - www.yachtworld.com



MedSailor
02-21-2013 04:51 PM
Cruiser2B
Re: Small Boat for Solo Sailing

Quote:
Originally Posted by deniseO30 View Post
back in the day there were day sailers that had full keels.

but then $130K may be a bit steep LOL

BTW, I single hand my Oday 30 up to about 12 knot wind.
Absolutely gorgeous but I just dont see 130K, really?
gold Ballast?
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