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02-26-2013 02:24 PM
hellosailor
Re: Installing stereo help

Yes, Bluetooth has obsoleted the CD the same way that 8tracks, cassettes, 33-vs-78...the whole long line of dead technology. It also costs manufacturers way less to put a $5 bluetooth chip in a stereo, than to waste space and money and moving parts putting in a cd or tape player. That stuff is still perfectly good, and arguably bt isn't cd quality, but in the real world if you aren't buying into bt already, you're roadkill.

And oddly enough the folks at Apple have never updated their iPod classic to offer bt with it. That's the only pocket player to offer a 160GB hard drive, which is enough for about 2500 full albums in very high quality.

A decent car stereo, am/fm/bt no discs, can be found for $50 these days.
02-26-2013 12:29 PM
remetau
Re: Installing stereo help

I like good sound quality for the music and TV. I have an Alpine head unit and an Alpine amp with 4 2-way component level Polk Audio speakers in the salon with a Bazooka tube sub-woofer behind the settee. I have the tv connect to the head unit for really nice stereo sound. I also use an I-Pod and a Galaxy Player for music (switching away from I-Pod). We have two water-proof wireless remotes (not infrared) for the head unit which we can operate from anywhere the boat which is nice when we are sitting in the hammock.

For the cockpit and deck, we have two Bazooka Tubies under the dodger which has speakers that point fore and aft.

We also have a portable Bose sound dock, and I'm sorry, even though it sounds decent, there is no way that it comes even close to the wired Polk speakers.
02-25-2013 03:42 PM
Philzy3985
Re: Installing stereo help

on my 30' boat, the already-installed CD player/marine speakers mounted in the cockpit all sound like crap, and I don't like using CDs, I prefer my ipod or cell phone.

but quality sound was important to me. So I bought this: Amazon.com: SimplyVibe V3-5CPB Bluetooth Mini Portable Speaker with Rechargeable Battery (works w/ iPod, iPad, iPhone, Android Devices) (Metal Casing Black): MP3 Players & Accessories

It about half the size of a soda can. It lasts about 6 hours on full blast volume, and sounds freaking awesome. Says it's water resistant but I tuck it under my dodger or in a cup-holder. It plugs in direct to any 3mm jack, and it can be bluetoothed instead.

Everything you could want (perhaps, because you weren't very specific), yet no wires or installation or drilling or cutting or mounting, and it was incredibly cheap, and guests don't seem to care that theres a portable speaker in the cockpit, they like that it's universal and everyone takes turns plugging in their iphones and picking their own music.
02-25-2013 02:27 PM
chef2sail
Re: Installing stereo help

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Originally Posted by caberg View Post
chef2sail,

OK. It would take me more than a couple of hours to install the stereo system that came with my boat . 2 flush mounted speakers in the cockpit, hardwired mounted remote in cockpit, receiver and 2 more speakers in cabin.

The original question was, "I want to buy a stereo for my boat." More people than just you have a valid opinion as to how to answer that question.

As for sound quality, I'm willing to bet that if you were put blindfolded in the cockpit of a boat, and played music first through mounted speakers, then through something like a Bose portable sound dock, you'd be hard pressed to hear any difference.
Truth of the matter is I have a system similiar to yours including a wired remote to the stero unit which goes through the tubes of the pedestal gaurd to the Navpod at the helm where a usb port and headphone jack are located in case someone want to listen at night during passage making without bothering the crew or handle the head unit remotely. All this took may 2-3 hours to install. Bose 131 speakers in the cockpit flusk mounted and Bose 151 speakers in the cabin on brackets. Took 1 hour to install. Pioneer head unit flush monted with bluetooth, usb ports, i pod ports and remote took in hour to install. Nothing will fall or move and is secure in any weather and is out of the way and is a space saver as its in areas not utilized. Its not cobbled together siiting on a shelf and doesnt need a battery pack replaced every three hours as does a Bose dock station. That would barely last through a movie on the flatscreen.

So if you ask me if the sound of 2 Bose 151 with is the same as a Bose docking system...newsflash ....its not. Our speakers also are hooked into our flatscreen tv. No one says Bose is the best, my ear like them though. No one says you have to have as extensive a system for tunes, but we enjoy ours since we use our boat like our second home and we have music home a lot. No one says you have to go for the expense. Actually we added the interior speakers the year after the head unit and exterior ones as the polyplaner speakers already in the boat sounded worse than the exterior ones. Again installation time 2-3 hours tops. Simple

I like that we can with one HTMI plug and one USB port hook up our labtop/ IPad and stream movies and sound or sit at the nav station and skype on the flatscreen within our love ones while docked or even uinderway in good cell reception zones.

Many different options to bring music our sound entertainment on board. Make it as simple or as compicated as you want. No one gets to judge what floats your boat
02-25-2013 01:49 PM
sailvayu
Re: Installing stereo help

Personally I like having the stereo below decks and an water proof remote at the helm. I use Clarion and am happy with it but everyone has their taste. I just find it good to be able to use the stereo on deck and still be able to control it without exposing the whole unit to the elements. I also installed a jack to use a MP3 player at the helm. This is a bit of a project but worth the effort in my opinion and if done right adds some value to the boat.

Capt. Wayne Canning, AMS
02-25-2013 01:15 PM
caberg
Re: Installing stereo help

chef2sail,

OK. It would take me more than a couple of hours to install the stereo system that came with my boat . 2 flush mounted speakers in the cockpit, hardwired mounted remote in cockpit, receiver and 2 more speakers in cabin.

The original question was, "I want to buy a stereo for my boat." More people than just you have a valid opinion as to how to answer that question.

As for sound quality, I'm willing to bet that if you were put blindfolded in the cockpit of a boat, and played music first through mounted speakers, then through something like a Bose portable sound dock, you'd be hard pressed to hear any difference.
02-25-2013 12:50 PM
chef2sail
Re: Installing stereo help

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Originally Posted by caberg View Post
Totally agree. There are some really nice options for portable music, whether it's integrated with your phone, ipod, or just a standalone radio. It would be quite a project to install a traditional marine stereo system in a boat that has not had one before. I know I could find better ways to spend my time and money on the boat.
Not much of a complicated project, maybe a couple hours at most. Small price to pay for some quality music or TV sound.

I dont play the stero/ usually an IPOD touch much underway except when we have long passage making and cruising of like 8-10 hours. It is nice to have some music to listen to when working on projects at the dock.

Some people are satisfied with 2 tin cans and a wire sound....some like quality sound. Whatever is important to you go for it. It appears that the OP had already decided this was an important aspect for him thats why he asked the question, so telling him
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I could find better ways to spend my time and money on the boat.
really isnt relevant. Its like telling him what he wants isnt important or relevant.

I actually think that a good first project for someone with a new boat is doing something lkike this as it gets you to know you electrical system, boat construction, better. Helps you build up to those bigger projects when you actually cut major things.

Either way the amount of time spent is really not that much. Personalize your boat the way that fits your lifestyle. There are many op[tions and degrees available. Whatever allows you to use your boat more and guves you comfort on it...go for it.

Dave
02-25-2013 12:10 PM
jsaronson
Re: Installing stereo help

Speakers!!! Keep them away from the compass unless they are shielded. Those big magnets do not aid navigation! Be sure they are rated fro outdoor use.
02-25-2013 10:20 AM
caberg
Re: Installing stereo help

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Originally Posted by eherlihy View Post
Here's an idea that you may not have thought of, and many will disagree with, but here goes: DON'T Install a stereo! Instead, buy a portable, battery powered radio (we used to call them "boom-boxes") and use that. They are: cheaper, easier to install, many are waterproof, you won't be putting unnecessary holes in your boat, you won't have to de-install when it breaks, you can bring it in the cockpit, on the beach, where ever you want..
Totally agree. There are some really nice options for portable music, whether it's integrated with your phone, ipod, or just a standalone radio. It would be quite a project to install a traditional marine stereo system in a boat that has not had one before. I know I could find better ways to spend my time and money on the boat.
02-24-2013 11:50 PM
RainDog
Re: Installing stereo help

Or just skip the stereo and buy a Jawbone Jambox. It is basically a bluetooth speaker and battery. It has amazing sound quality for a small package, is super portable, and loves 12v power.

We just stream music and podcasts to it from the ipad/smartphone.

Best of all they are down to about $100 now. If you like you music LOUD you might get the larger version.
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