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03-07-2013 11:13 AM
jimgo
Re: Replacing standing rigging

Who is your insurance company?
03-07-2013 10:14 AM
Capt.Alex
Re: Replacing standing rigging

Have an inspection done. If it is all in good shape it may be cheaper to find a new insurance company....
03-07-2013 06:40 AM
Jiminri
Re: Replacing standing rigging

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cabes View Post
Thanks for your answer (and clearly I missed the funny part)- perhaps I should have worded my question a little better.
I purchased the yacht and the insurance company says that the rigging must be replaced every 10 years (5 Years if its used for racing) as a matter of course.
I have no paper work to say how old it is - it may only be 1 year old - it may be 20 -
I understand I can get a rigger to inspect the rigging to tell if its good or unservicable but my question is - how do I (how does he) assess the age regardless of condition? Are there date markings somewhere??

The way I understand it is the rigger can say its in good condition but the insurer wants to know the age as well - appreciate any feedback
Sorry....my recent boats have been Nonsuches, which have no standing rigging...hence my remark about lack of expertise. We have our own sets of issues.

As others have said, without a receipt from the PO, log entry, or yard confirmation, you likely cannot prove the age. If the insurance company is inflexible, you may just need to replace. Have you tried talking to the underwriters at the insurance company? Perhaps they would be willing to accept a survey from a rigging company and (assuming it is in good condition now) a plan to replace the rigging within the next X years. Worth a try.
03-07-2013 12:54 AM
mitiempo
Re: Replacing standing rigging

Without a confirmed purchase date by receipt or log entry possibly nobody can tell with any certainty the age of the rigging. There are no "best before" stamps on rigging.

Talk to the previous owner or the yard that regularly serviced the boat and see if you can get an idea of its age. If you are not able to determine age bite the bullet and re-rig. You will be good for 10 probably trouble free years - 5 if you race.
03-07-2013 12:31 AM
Cabes
Re: Replacing standing rigging

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Originally Posted by Jiminri View Post
Not that I know the first thing about STANDING rigging but I think that's a very good reason to hire a rigger. Age may be a consideration, but I think condition is more so. Too many variables that affect life expectancy of equipment.
Thanks for your answer (and clearly I missed the funny part)- perhaps I should have worded my question a little better.
I purchased the yacht and the insurance company says that the rigging must be replaced every 10 years (5 Years if its used for racing) as a matter of course.
I have no paper work to say how old it is - it may only be 1 year old - it may be 20 -
I understand I can get a rigger to inspect the rigging to tell if its good or unservicable but my question is - how do I (how does he) assess the age regardless of condition? Are there date markings somewhere??

The way I understand it is the rigger can say its in good condition but the insurer wants to know the age as well - appreciate any feedback
02-25-2013 04:36 PM
ntolst
Re: Replacing standing rigging

I am currently replacing standing rigging on my Bayfield 36'. The original looks really good but it is over 25 years old and I don't trust it to sail offshore. I removed one lower shroud and one intermediate and requested riggers to make 4 identical shrouds for each with upper terminals swaged. The lower (Hi-Mod) terminals I bought from Rigging Only and will attach them myself. Once I finish with intermideate and lower shrouds I will do the upper and stays, one at the time. That is much cheaper then let professional riggers do whole project.
02-25-2013 04:29 PM
donlofland
Re: Replacing standing rigging

Mine is a catalina 27, so we were able to unstep the mast on our own and trailer it to the back yard, where I leisurely replaced all the rigging and lines.

Next time I might hire the yard crane to help with the unstepping, but regardless, if it all needed replacing, I think I'd want to do it with the mast down. (But I have replaced just the forestay with the mast up because when I was stepping the mast after all the replacing the lower forestay turnbuckle fitting got snagged in the companionway and bent-dang!)
02-25-2013 04:18 PM
bwindrope
Re: Replacing standing rigging

I did mine with Aeolus in the water because I had already pulled the mast a few years prior and replaced all the mast wiring. I did it just as it is described here, more or less, one piece at a time. Fortunately, I have mast steps!!!!! Can attest to Rigging Only providing good service. I will also put a plug in for Hayn Hi-Mod fittings, as they were recommended by Brion Toss and I found them easy to use. Elegant looking too.

Sheaves are good to get from Zephyrwerks in Port Townsend. Great to work with on custom sizes, and great quality. I'm getting some more from him for my boom sheaves.

I enjoyed this job immensely, and even though it was tedious, I know my rigging is solid now.
02-24-2013 08:26 AM
Jiminri
Re: Replacing standing rigging

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cabes View Post
I,ve just bought a yacht ...how do I tell how old the rigging is exactly if there is no paperwork.?
Not that I know the first thing about STANDING rigging but I think that's a very good reason to hire a rigger. Age may be a consideration, but I think condition is more so. Too many variables that affect life expectancy of equipment.
02-24-2013 07:56 AM
Cabes
Re: Replacing standing rigging

I,ve just bought a yacht ...how do I tell how old the rigging is exactly if there is no paperwork.?
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