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02-28-2013 12:44 AM
blowinstink
Re: Halyards to cockpit?

D10 -
I think there is lots of good stuff in this thread, but my favorite post by far is Chuck's advice to do nothing and sail your boat for a while first. The boat is brand new to you and your feel for what you want and need will be so much different after a season on the bay sailing in a variety of conditions. Even if that turns out to be a "lines led aft" solution, you will still benefit from the experience at the mast because no system will free you entirely from the need to go forward. Can't wait to start seeing your "I just got in today" posts!
-BS
02-27-2013 11:42 PM
JonEisberg
Re: Halyards to cockpit?

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Originally Posted by PaulinVictoria View Post
Does that count as boat porn?
Uhhh, probably not - unless the sound of fiberglass laminate cracking turns you on... (grin)
02-27-2013 01:43 PM
chef2sail
Re: Halyards to cockpit?

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Originally Posted by JonEisberg View Post
Nah, I'm hardly a purist, I like most gadgets as much as the next guy... When I'm cruising my own boat, I suppose I do put a higher premium on sailing, as opposed to motoring, than most cruisers appear to do, but that's about it... You'd probably be surprised at the amount of gadgetry my little tub sports, I would NEVER choose a manual windlass over an electric, for example, and I would kill to have a wireless remote autopilot control on the boat I'm running now - whoever installed the tillerpilot control on this boat should simply be shot, what a moron, couldn't possibly have been placed in a dumber, more inconvenient location...

However, I do like stuff that WORKS, and I hate to say that much of what is being foisted upon the sailing 'consumer' these days, either seems largely unnecessary, or simply doesn't really work that well at all...

One of my dislikes was certainly confirmed today at the Charleston City Marina Megadock... I've sat here for 2 days due to weather, today's passage of a warm front was truly impressive, blew 35-40 out of the S & SW for much of the day...

One of the worst trends I'm seeing in today's production boats - particularly many of the popular Euro variety - is the placement of these freakin' picture windows in the topsides, a foot or more below deck level...

One of those sleek and sexy Euro bitches found themselves pinned against the outboard/weather side of the face dock, their fenders being squeezed virtually flat... It was very sobering to behold, the vulnerability of those windows, placed at the boat's maximum beam, when the hull came into contact with the face of the dock...

So, in that regard, call me a "purist"... The purposeful cutting of large, long holes in the side of a boat, and then filling that hole with a piece of Lexan or whatever, is just plain nuts on a boat intended to actually go places beyond the sight of land... (grin)
Jon (grin),

I tease you and sometimes am foolish enough to argue with you but I have learned a lot from you on SN. You are a valuable resource and hopefull someday I can put and handshakeand a smile to your postings.

Keep on keeping on. Purists are a dying breed. ( grin)
02-27-2013 11:55 AM
TQA
Re: Halyards to cockpit?

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Originally Posted by chef2sail View Post
Not sure why this is an either or. An autopilit requires more money also. I say you have both
The content of the OP suggests that finances are a concern. I started sailing singlehanding a Catalina[Jaguar] 22 and my first purchase was a tillerpilot.

That allowed me to go forward to change/reef sails with the boat under control.

Sure it would be nice on long wet cold passages to have both but if I had to choose between having all lines back to the cockpit OR an autopilot the autopilot wins every time.
02-27-2013 11:44 AM
Faster
Re: Halyards to cockpit?

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Originally Posted by outbound View Post
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Before building my new boat looked at a huge number of vessels with hull portlights. Had occassion to blow out lights on the LEEWARD side in a knockdown once. Agree some may feel they are stylish. I think they have no place on a boat that sails in any kind of weather unless over built in the extreme.
While I like the idea of a 'view' of the anchorage from the salon, that's always been a bit of concern, esp as these hull ports get bigger and lower in the hull. One would assume/hope they were designed and installed with such forces in mind, but.....?

What boat was it that you actually blew out a hull portlight? First time I've heard of that actually happening.
02-27-2013 10:54 AM
outbound
Re: Halyards to cockpit?

Think the take aways are:
1.Fallard is right- bringing everything aft increases safety and comfort
2.Jon is right- if done must be done correctly and systems maintained
3.Autopilots are great- but must be sized correctly,if going off shore have appropriate spares and serviced routinely

Before builting my new boat looked at a huge number of vessels with hull portlights. Had occassion to blow out lights on the LEEWARD side in a knockdown once. Agree some may feel they are stylish. I think they have no place on a boat that sails in any kind of weather unless over built in the extreme.
02-27-2013 10:30 AM
chucklesR
Re: Halyards to cockpit?

If you rig it right you can put a joystick with remote control to all electric two way winches.
A good internet connection and you'll never have to leave home.
02-27-2013 10:12 AM
CapnRon47
Re: Halyards to cockpit?

I converted my 35' sailboat "Heron" last year. I tried to keep it simple. I left all the gear at the mast, including the clutches; but led the lines to a second set of clutches on the cabin-top. If the ones at the mast are open the ones in the cockpit hold the lines. My description with pictures can be found here from a previous thread;
http://www.sailnet.com/forums/genera...e-ideas-4.html

I did it for safety as I am getting older, for making single handed sailing easier and sailing with newbie friends and kids more relaxing. I also have an autopilot. I installed that first a few years ago and it worked fine when going forward (also with jack lines and harness). But this upgrade gets me out more often.

cheers,
Ron
02-27-2013 01:47 AM
PaulinVictoria
Re: Halyards to cockpit?

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One of those sleek and sexy Euro bitches found themselves pinned against the outboard/weather side of the face dock, their fenders being squeezed virtually flat
Does that count as boat porn?
02-27-2013 01:18 AM
deltaten
Re: Halyards to cockpit?

Good posts and great responses all! Keep 'em coming, if you please?

Chrysalis is a tiller-steered tub of elder parentage and lesser equipped. As much as I'd like to consider myself a "purist", I'm more than ready at this stage of life to start taking it a bit easier. Mr. Murphy..or his aquatic equivalent , is bound to rear his head and cause all manner of difficulties at inopportune times. Until I have a few miles under the keel, I had best keep it simple! Until I joined here and read vast amounts of posts and did massive research, I had no idea what a "Genoa track and cars"were; let alone thought I had need of them!

I plan to purchase lines sufficient to eventually run them to the 'pit. In the meantime, I see no reason not to have the excess (perhaps 10 or 12 feet?) hung/stowed nicely while under way and out of use. I can sure bend a loop over the halyard winch as well as a have the bitter end to hand. As time, experience and finances allow, I'll add such hardware as needed in some sort of logical order.


Oh.. and not to forget! I *do* plan to run a jackline/s and wear a harness/PFD when out. :biggrin:

Thanx again,
Paul
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