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03-04-2013 10:40 PM
Barquito
Re: US Sailing vs. ASA courses, vs. just get out there

Regardless of the quality of instruction, you are going to need to do two things to be a good (safe) sailor:

1) Sail a lot. On a variety of boats with many experienced sailors.
2) Keep pressing for more information from all sources possible: books, internet, sailors, etc.

Regarding USSailing vs ASA? Don't know. Probably doesn't matter as much as the individual instructor.
03-04-2013 01:24 PM
nolatom
Re: US Sailing vs. ASA courses, vs. just get out there

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Originally Posted by jackdale View Post
Power Squadron courses are all theory. There is no practical on-the-water component.
Quite true but it will give you a good working knowledge of coastal piloting and navigation. I took it many years ago at age 14 (and got no certif since you had to be 16). But these were the chart plotting skills I have used ever since. Good to know these before going on a cruise or a cruising course I would think.
03-04-2013 12:28 AM
jackdale
Re: US Sailing vs. ASA courses, vs. just get out there

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Originally Posted by RainDog View Post
Check out the Power Squadron courses too.
Power Squadron courses are all theory. There is no practical on-the-water component.
03-03-2013 11:51 PM
swampcreek
Re: US Sailing vs. ASA courses, vs. just get out there

After a few day sailors and many power boats my Wife and I took ASA 101, 103 and 104 for our 10 wedding anniversary in 2009. We took it on a 37' Tayana Cutter in Abaco Bahamas. It was the best vacation we've had. We returned home and bought a 26' Macgregor to make sure we were ready for the larger sailboats as far as investment went. We had a blast with that Mac but we decided soon it was time to move up even bigger so last year we sold her and now have a beautiful Catalina 320. We took our classes through cruiseabaco.com
03-03-2013 01:40 PM
RainDog
Re: US Sailing vs. ASA courses, vs. just get out there

Check out the Power Squadron courses too.
03-03-2013 01:40 PM
eherlihy
Re: US Sailing vs. ASA courses, vs. just get out there

I took the ASA courses with a local boat club. Taking the course enabled me to use the club boats, but not to reserve, for 45 days. As I recall, the club did not force, or even encourage taking the ASA tests. However, taking the classroom instruction, and the instructor led sailing were requirements in order to use the club boats.

I was glad that I gained certification this way, as it enabled me to use several different size boats (27' Soling, Pearson 26, Albin 28, J-29, Pearson 31, CAL 33, Pearson 34, Pearson 36, and a CAL 39) and sail with several different people. I realized that I did not like racing, and that the minimum size boat that the Admiral would be content with was a CAL 33. I eventually bought an O'day 35, which is VERY similar to the Pearson 34.
03-03-2013 01:16 PM
MarkSF
Re: US Sailing vs. ASA courses, vs. just get out there

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Originally Posted by kd3pc View Post
more than enough to get you safe, capable, and sailing....save your money and get out with the local guys. IF needed, later you can fill in the gaps with an instructor of your choosing.

My wife and I have both done ASA 103/10X and were not impressed.

YMMV
You did them at the wrong school with the wrong instructors then... I was very impressed with ASA 101/103/104.

There does seem to be some variation... 101 took me two full weekends. I've heard of some schools doing it in 2 days, or multiple courses in a week. Really, the more time you are spending on the water, the better. Time between courses is worthwhile too (if you are sailing).
03-01-2013 07:03 AM
Minnewaska
Re: US Sailing vs. ASA courses, vs. just get out there

Having a recognized certification from either ASA or USSA could help if you want to bareboat charter or possibly with one's insurance. That said, I fully agree that the actual value of the training is entirely dependent on the instructor themselves, local or national.

I seem to recall that when my wife took lessons, she had a choice of which cert she wanted. The only difference was which written test she needed to take, so they could send in the right paperwork.
02-28-2013 11:49 AM
dbmathison
Re: US Sailing vs. ASA courses, vs. just get out there

I'm interested in this thread too. I'm actually a power boater (32-42ft). But was introduced to bareboat vacation sailing in the BVI's. Twice on 47ft Oceanis monohulls and three times on 44 cats. I played very active crew for these trips and thoroughly enjoyed. Unfortunately, we have lost touch with the individual that we used for captining these trips.

I know enough to be dangerous :-) I can easily motor these boats about. Throw up the genoa. Dock at the pier, pick up a mooring ball, etc. I'm looking to certifications in hopes of furthing my knowledge, add to my resume and hopefully open doors to go bareboating again.

That said, I've already covered the just getting out there. But for certifications is either one of these programs better geared to bareboating or more recognized by these charter companies?
02-27-2013 04:28 PM
kd3pc
Re: US Sailing vs. ASA courses, vs. just get out there

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I'm thinking that these local basic courses, plus some local cruiser and racer crewing, should be enough to prepare me comfortably for local day-sailing.
more than enough to get you safe, capable, and sailing....save your money and get out with the local guys. IF needed, later you can fill in the gaps with an instructor of your choosing.

My wife and I have both done ASA 103/10X and were not impressed.

YMMV
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