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03-06-2013 11:22 AM
chucklesR
Re: Electronic upgrade shopping list

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex W View Post
If you are building a new system the Simrad or Lowrance Link-8 VHF/AIS receivers will be easier to integrate than the Standard Horizon 2150. They offer the use of NMEA 2000 or NMEA 0183, instead of just NMEA 0183.
True indeed.
I've already got the 2150 and e7d (salvaged from my previous boat).

If going new, get better.
03-06-2013 11:04 AM
Alex W
Re: Electronic upgrade shopping list

If you are building a new system the Simrad or Lowrance Link-8 VHF/AIS receivers will be easier to integrate than the Standard Horizon 2150. They offer the use of NMEA 2000 or NMEA 0183, instead of just NMEA 0183.
03-06-2013 10:54 AM
chucklesR
Re: Electronic upgrade shopping list

Rugosa,

In today's world, in theory you can mix and match different vendor's products because they are all NMEA 2000 compliant.
Some people do just that as it allows them to pick the best of the bunch per device. In the real world vendors put in tiny little changes to the standard that provide a better interface or 'extra' functions if the entire system is on their network.

That radar is always going to be a standalone - it won't interface properly and overlay on the chartplotter. I don't think he'll be happy with it, especially considering the 'whiz-bang' effect of the other new technology. I'd advise him to toss it (sell it) and get a RM 18 inch HD radar.

You didn't mention VHF or AIS, if he already has a DSC VHF this may be wasted typing, but - here's the one time I advise against RM and all one vendor -if he wants AIS receive capability I'd pull whatever VHF he has and install a Standard Horizon 2150x - it's got a built in AIS that will connect to the e series MFD's from Raymarine (takes some wiring).
My setup on the Gemini was a 2150 plugged to my e7d, St60's for instruments, and a ST1 to ST2 converter hub.
On the Irwin 38 CC it will be what I've advised here in this thread with a few extra's -(SH 2150x DSC VHF and AIS,
e7d,
i70,
A70 (autopilot control),
X30, linear drive type 2,
18 inch HD from RM,
Airmar p79 (RM part A00170 I think) for depth and sonar,
a ITC 5 sensor pod/converter
and a Network hub (E85001) to plug my PC in.

Here's a drawing I did of my plans. I follow my own advice

03-05-2013 11:15 PM
bljones
Re: Electronic upgrade shopping list

For coastal use and ICW transit, that's a lot of gear to throw at a boat nearly 30 years old
But if the owner feels he has to have it...
downsize the display sizes. 9" and 12" is overkill. if 9" is fine upstairs, why not stick with 9" downstairs and save $1G or so?

Ditto on Chuck's MFD recommendations.
03-05-2013 10:47 PM
rugosa
Re: Electronic upgrade shopping list

Great recommendation on ST70 vs ST40. Owner will appreciate larger displays. He has a Furuno 1621MK2 radar ready to install. Any recommendations on alternative product or is Raymarine the standard?
03-05-2013 02:03 PM
chef2sail
Re: Electronic upgrade shopping list

Quote:
Originally Posted by rugosa View Post
I'm doing this for a friend (really) who has asked me to help pick instruments for his 39 foot 1985 Bayliner (no sails of course). He is beyond the point of no return with renovations but wants to get the boat off the hard this spring, and hopefully from Lake Ontario to Florida for the winter, where it will likely remain as a seasonal destination.

The yard manager is recommending Raymarine -

Pilot House - I50 tridata instruments with transducers 444-E70149
Upper Bridge - I50 tridata instrument working as a repeater 444-E70149
Pilot House & Upper Bridge - ST40 compass system 444-E22014P
Pilot House - P70 autopilot control unit 444-E22166
Upper Bridge - S100 wireless autopilot remote 444-E12169
Course computer (if necessary) - SPX30 Raymarine autopilot 444-E12199
For Chart Plotter - GPS RS-130 414-E10060
E series chartplotter - for bridge - 9" wide screen multifunction display - 444-E70021 - E95
E series chartplotter - for pilot house - 12" wide screen multifunction display -444-E70023 - E125

for about 15k plus installation.

The owner trusts my input but its been a long time since I bought instruments (like when I had hair), and really need some recent experience and guidance. What are the comparable choices, does he need all of this, are there better choices???

Thanks in advance
Radar?

Chucks recommendations about the hub and the ST70 are good ones
03-05-2013 01:36 PM
chucklesR
Re: Electronic upgrade shopping list

He could save a chunk by getting only one MFD - and using either an android or ipad as his repeater. The e series has wireless, including remote operation for both system.
I do mine from my phone even.
Having said that, you don't need a S100 - the pad or a phone can do it.

I'm not sure I'd go with I50's, why not i70's which are multi function displays (each can display anything) - that is far better than single purpose displays

You'll need network converters to do that, I50's are ST, not STng.
If you go with i70's you'll only need 1 ITC 5 sensor pod (E70010) for all the sensors

You've got the X-30, and the P70 but what about the rest of the autopilot (below decks stuff).
E series MFD's have built in GPS, mine works just fine, no need for a remote unit.

I'd suggest adding a E85001, network interface hub - for PC's and such.
03-05-2013 01:22 PM
rugosa
Electronic upgrade shopping list

I'm doing this for a friend (really) who has asked me to help pick instruments for his 39 foot 1985 Bayliner (no sails of course). He is beyond the point of no return with renovations but wants to get the boat off the hard this spring, and hopefully from Lake Ontario to Florida for the winter, where it will likely remain as a seasonal destination.

The yard manager is recommending Raymarine -

Pilot House - I50 tridata instruments with transducers 444-E70149
Upper Bridge - I50 tridata instrument working as a repeater 444-E70149
Pilot House & Upper Bridge - ST40 compass system 444-E22014P
Pilot House - P70 autopilot control unit 444-E22166
Upper Bridge - S100 wireless autopilot remote 444-E12169
Course computer (if necessary) - SPX30 Raymarine autopilot 444-E12199
For Chart Plotter - GPS RS-130 414-E10060
E series chartplotter - for bridge - 9" wide screen multifunction display - 444-E70021 - E95
E series chartplotter - for pilot house - 12" wide screen multifunction display -444-E70023 - E125

for about 15k plus installation.

The owner trusts my input but its been a long time since I bought instruments (like when I had hair), and really need some recent experience and guidance. What are the comparable choices, does he need all of this, are there better choices???

Thanks in advance

 
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